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Posted on 05/12/2007 3:32:10 PM PDT by Stoat
From a foundation in Classical music, it's also much easier to 'sell' kids (and adults) on Conservative politics and principles, because they share logical, coherent foundations.
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Concerning a machine beat, check out any Baroque piece. All Baroque music was dance music, and all of it, even slower religious pieces, has a steady beat.
And if you want pure classical rhythm, check out the Presto finale of Schubert's Quartet in D minor, D. 810, better known as the "Death and the Maiden" quartet. It's pure classical rap. I could write (clean) words to it.
That's to be expected in the Socialist cesspool of Seattle. When there are so few Conservatives here, they are going to creep into areas where they would be less of a force in more of a mainstream city.
All Baroque music was dance music, and all of it, even slower religious pieces, has a steady beat.
When I said "machine beat" I meant just that....a beat produced by a machine and not subject to human interpretations and variations. A 'steady' beat exists in many places, including nature and the cosmos, but it is not a soulless, programmed noise.
I'm a huge classical music fan, but if you think the classical music world is any less lefty than the rest of the music world, you're deluding yourself and should probably reread Tom Wolfe's classic book, Radical Chic.
If you’d like to hear a humorous shot at machine beats from Peter Schickele, check out P.D.Q. Bach’s “Classical Rap” and his Concerto for Piano versus Orchestra, which features a rhythm generator in one of the movements.
OMG. I adore Professor Schickele. I only have four albums and the Autobiography . . . I have lots of shoppin’ to do!
I had the privilege of seeing Schickele stage "Hansel and Gretel and Ted and Alice" about 25 years ago in L.A. The same disk features "The Art of the Ground Round" which is hilarious.
The Liebeslieder Polkas may be one of those pieces that outlives him. (He's 75.)
The 1712 Overture is a clever takeoff on Tchaikovsky.
And don't miss "Oedipus Tex" with its country duet.
I'm a huge classical music fan, but if you think the classical music world is any less lefty than the rest of the music world, you're deluding yourself and should probably reread Tom Wolfe's classic book, Radical
My only apparent "delusion" was my hope that my words would not be twisted into more than what I said.
OF COURSE there are Leftists who enjoy classical music, I never suggested that there weren't. What I was referring to was people who didn't already have a strong political or ideological streak. There are lots of people who are apolitical, yet if they have a foundation in Classical music first, they might more readily appreciate the logic and timeless truths of Conservatism.
I know it's not Mozart, but IMHO 'Moonlight Sonata' is one of the sexiest pieces of music ever written.
I hate to twist your tail, Stoat -- pun intended -- but that doesn't necessarily wash.
Music is mathematics in sound. Some perceive that more readily than the Pythagorean Theorem, but a grounding in mathematics, particularly Euclidean Geometry, might have the same effect you desire.
But classical music more properly belongs to the Dead White Male side of things, better known as Western Culture. There are universities that still teach the Great Books, but even they turn out their share of socialist intellectuals.
Teaching math, music, Western Culture or the Great Books won't necessarily produce conservatives because of a logical and coherent foundation. When I say Marx and Keynes have a logical and coherent foundation to their philosophies, I'm not being facetious. Marxism is a religion with all the same facets as a religion, such as a logical end to history and a paradise to be worked for.
So perhaps teaching religion would help produce conservatives, but there we run into a different issue -- whose religion? And which facets of it? A course in Aquinan logic might well produce what you are looking for, but it would also miss the essence of what a religion shuuld be.
I'm flailing around here too, but I don't think classical music is a magic bullet. I'm not sure there are magic bullets any more. Perhaps a classical education based on all of the above might produce more conservaives, but I'm sure that St. John's on Long Island turns out its share of liberals anyway.
I know it's not Mozart, but IMHO 'Moonlight Sonata' is one of the sexiest pieces of music ever written.
Agreed, it is indeed a delight :-) Although the classical record labels have been putting forth 'sexy' images of some of their stars for years, my hope is that if these efforts are successful in getting new listeners in the door, some might be moved to dig deeper than the superficialities of the packaging and find that the music is oftentimes more moving than they might have imagined.
Apparently this is proving to be the case, as evidenced by the numbers quoted in this article.
I wasn't flailing.
but I don't think classical music is a magic bullet.
I never suggested that it was.
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Very cool.
I first found my love of the music as a 20 something
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