New Find Reveals Macabre Tale Of 400-Year-Old 'Neo-Con'

Alpha Galileo ^ | 4-24-2007 | University Of Manchester

[CatoRenasci]

“The documents suggest it is unlikely that Garnet would have invited a high-profile lone Spanish female agitator into England if he was trying to keep secret a complex plot to murder the King.”

Sheer speculation and wishful thinking! Without further evidence, as an historian I don't think the fact that a supposed Gunpowder Plotter invited this Spanish papal spitfire over has any bearing on whether he was up to his eyeballs with Guy Fawkes or not. Could as easily be a cover suggesting no one so open could be a plotter (the old 'hiding in plain sight' approach).

Oh Don't you remember
the Fifth of November
Gunpowder, Treason and Plot!

[Brujo]

Instead of “Neo-Cons” shouldn't that be “Paleo-Cons”?

[Mr. Jeeves]

He added: “Luisa came to England not knowing a word of English to realise her dream of converting English protestants to the Catholic faith and martyring herself for the cause.

Yeah, that's sort of like moving to Baghdad to found an Internet start-up. ;)

[wildbill]

It’s highly unlikely that Al-Queda would have sent a guy to flight school in Minnesota to learn only how to take off if they already had pilots and a plan for 9/11. [sarcasm/]

[wafflehouse]

"Neo-Con" pisses me off. its a stupid pop culture word, used mostly as an epithet. ("Fundie" pisses me off too). People who use it in serious conversation or writing are not likely to strike me as very serious.

...a Gunpowder Plotter executed in 1606 was probably innocent.

“She was disgusted by the English, who she said threw carrots into carts which the day before had carried the bodies of plague victims."

this doesnt surprise me, but which particular plague is she referring to i wonder?

[bert]

He’s trying to equate neocons with bad

[Valin]

“She also argued for military intervention in Ireland and the forced deportation of 400,000 Moriscos - Christians of Muslim descent living in Spain.

“That bears a strong resemblance to the sort of things some neo-cons are saying today.

That’s more of a Paleocon kind of thing.