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Linux and Solaris face off
Reg Dev ^ | April 13th | David Norfolk

Posted on 04/13/2007 10:47:15 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

Oliver Jones provides an even-handed summary: "I've been a stalwart Solaris x86 user for many years now - I refuse to run Linux on my hardware, when Solaris makes the penguin look decidedly second-rate." For reliability, he says: "I truly can't fault the Sun option: I consider that if Solaris is good enough for the banks, it's good enough for me."

But, he also says: "To be honest, Solaris isn't without issues - the number one I see at the moment is the user experience (especially with regard to hardware support). Sun really needs to plough some more development resources into hardware support, but we're getting there: Solaris x86 is absolutely fantastic compared to how it was in 2004, but it still has a while to go. Having the likes of Nvidia on-board is great, and hopefully the hardware support will accrete with time - as more people see the benefits of going Sun."

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: linux; oss; solaris
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1 posted on 04/13/2007 10:47:16 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

You’d have to be out of your mind to want anything to do with proprietary unix variants at this point.


2 posted on 04/13/2007 10:55:21 AM PDT by jeddavis
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; N3WBI3

OSS Ping


3 posted on 04/13/2007 11:14:27 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: N3WBI3; ShadowAce; Tribune7; frogjerk; Salo; LTCJ; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; amigatec; Fractal Trader; ..

OSS PING

If you are interested in the OSS ping list please mail me

4 posted on 04/13/2007 11:15:33 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: jeddavis

I disagree, you use the right tool for the right job.. If for no other reason than the hardware they tend to run on sometimes an OS like AIX or Solaris is the right too.


5 posted on 04/13/2007 11:18:49 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I just installed FreeBSD onto an older Dell server with SCSI RAID 5 and all. I was very impressed at how smoothly it all went.

Why was BSD left out of this fight?

6 posted on 04/13/2007 11:20:17 AM PDT by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: N3WBI3

Some problems with how this is being evaluated

“However, for businesses, he thinks Solaris is a bit of a killer option - about the same level of difficulty to handle as Linux and “every Solaris installation basically works the same way”, he says, while, “Linux has a huge problem in that every distro has its own way of doing things, and it makes supporting Linux prohibitively expensive”.”

The cost of support for RedHat and Solaris are pretty close. He is correct in saying every distro does some things differently but who the heck runs different distors in a shop?

BUt the article does make some fair points..


7 posted on 04/13/2007 11:22:45 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: TChris

We want platforms with support software ;)


8 posted on 04/13/2007 11:23:45 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: N3WBI3
My “shop” runs Soalris, HPUX, AIX, SuSE, Redhat and OSX. I hate my SLES servers, persnicity little bastards. My Solaris boxes only really give me MTBF problems. A co-worker of mine supports the OSX stuff. He and I are somehwat in the same boat, OSX is a great OS, but is it really suited for the datacenter? I am of the same with Linux, love SuSE 9.3 (10.1 was just “jumpy, jittery” with fully supported hardware), but I cannot say it is ready for anything more than being a LAMP server.
9 posted on 04/13/2007 2:52:00 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (If Rudy is the GOP's guy, I'm voting for Hillary. Hey, why do anything half ass?)
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...but I cannot say it is ready for anything more than being a LAMP server.

Linux does far better than your experience, though. I have personally installed several Top 500 computers and they all run Linux. The latest one I did was a 1200+ node monster for the ARL in Aberdeen.

10 posted on 04/13/2007 3:13:32 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: N3WBI3
The cost of support for RedHat and Solaris are pretty close.

LOL, do you ever get anything right? Solaris support costs about half what Red Hat does.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/01/16/HNsunundercutsredhat_1.html

11 posted on 04/13/2007 3:18:26 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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You’ve personally installed several supercomputers huh. Wasn’t very long ago you said you worked for some small device company building routers or something wasn’t it? Sorry to be so skeptical, but you were caught the other day claiming you had been quote “exclusively” using Linux on your laptop, when we knew from other older posts it actually had an instance of Windows on there.


12 posted on 04/13/2007 3:25:29 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
You’ve personally installed several supercomputers huh. Wasn’t very long ago you said you worked for some small device company building routers or something wasn’t it?

Yep--changed jobs.

Sorry to be so skeptical, but you were caught the other day claiming you had been quote “exclusively” using Linux on your laptop, when we knew from other older posts it actually had an instance of Windows on there.

That "instance" is a VM, and my computer never boots up to Windows. That has been explained before, but since we can see you don't understand basic set theory, I don't expect you to admit that you don't know what you're talking about on this subject either.

13 posted on 04/13/2007 3:36:06 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

LOL, I understand perfectly what the word “exclusively” means, and you haven’t been running Linux “exclusively” on your laptop no matter how you want to try to twist it.

And since your recent job change, you’ve supposedly already installed “several” supercomputers? That’s pretty funny too, since my experience with them is it can take a year or more to set a single one up. The actual top500 info on ARL shows about 1 per year for them as well.

http://www.top500.org/site/1820

So what was your job? Unboxing everything? Or driving the truck.


14 posted on 04/13/2007 3:49:45 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: jeddavis

Why?

I’ve got greater stability and a smaller footprint.

It’s faster(higher performance) too.


15 posted on 04/14/2007 6:44:50 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: Golden Eagle

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^So what was your job? Unboxing everything? Or driving the truck.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Do you think for once you could skip the vitriol?


16 posted on 04/14/2007 6:48:25 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
When people can’t tell the truth they need a good thumping. What are you gonna do, post some more BS yourself or more links to your arabic Linux site? What was it called again, Pharaohnix?
17 posted on 04/14/2007 7:20:49 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
He can’t stop. He’s a self-appointed Linux destroyer. No matter what others say or what others experience (with regard to Linux), GE will be there to deny, belittle, criticize, obfuscate, and when necessary lie. He lives to single handedly roll back the impact of Linux and open source.
18 posted on 04/14/2007 7:26:39 AM PDT by twntaipan (Who needs jihad when you have the dhimmicrats?)
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To: Golden Eagle
When people can’t tell the truth they need a good thumping.

Your abysmal lack of reading comprehension does not constitute a lie on my part.

19 posted on 04/14/2007 7:35:06 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: twntaipan
He’s a self-appointed Linux destroyer.

Just correcting the endless mistruths. Shadowman here said just the other day he had been using Linux "exclusively on his laptop for years" when the fact is he's got a Windows partition on there. Now he says he's "setup several supercomputers" when the fact is he just recently changed jobs. He's been posting BS like this for years, I remember the time he tried to argue with me that my own Blackberry ran on Linux instead of Java LOL. He's far from the only one posting bull like this either, his ping list buddy keeps going from thread to thread claiming Windows 2000 is "unsupported" when Microsoft is actually providing free automatic security patching for the O/S till 2010.

You may not care if a small group of posters goes from thread to thread spreading lies, but it does everyone a great disservice. Not to mention there are a lot of leftist kooks behind the free software "movement", looks like you're from China or something yourself. These are facts, got any yourself? Or are you reduced to personal attacks against me like they are?

20 posted on 04/14/2007 7:49:04 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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