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To: gonzo; Peach; Carolinamom; gulfcoast6; All

Just some thoughts about today’s society:

I think we can agree that our society is broken and continuing in a downward spiral. We can put a lot of the blame on the MSM and the education system. But, we must also put the blame on the judicial system and (sorry GC6) to some extent law enforcement which is part of the judicial system. We’ve seen Socks Burgler get a pass, UOx42 got a pass, Cynthia McKinney gets a pass, Pelosis gets a pass and on and on and on. There is one application of the law for pubbies and another for RATS.

I have said that we need to encourage our young conservatives to become educators and journalists. I’ve changed my mind. I think it is as important, or more, that we become lawyers, and therefore attorneys general and judges. Additionally, we need to continue to staff the military. These spots are where actual power, not imputed power, is.

It would take about a generation and half to retake the society. Do we have that much time?

/2 cents


98 posted on 04/12/2007 4:01:18 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ "There is no honor for the man who runs from battle." Spc. Josh Lott)
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To: Jemian

Those are good points, Jemian. I think we need our own television station and a huge slew of our own attorneys. We need to have parents get more involved in their kids schooling; if parents knew some of the things being taught to their kids, I like to believe they’d put a stop to it.

I just don’t know what will turn things around anymore. Really I don’t. It’s human nature to want handouts and that’s the way I see our society going. The military sacrifices a lot. And people like you have sacrificed a lot. But mostly I see folks out for themselves and what they can get out of someone.

Gone are the days of JFK’s democrat party; Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country.

Well, Mr. Peach’s phone call is over and I’m back to watching Planet Earth with him.


107 posted on 04/12/2007 4:46:33 PM PDT by Peach (Not banned yet.)
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To: Jemian
I agree with your comments about lawyers and judges. Lawyers and judges tried to confuse Jesus Christ in the New Testament with questions that were designed to trap and tempt him. I especially remember the lawyer asking Christ about the woman taken in adultery, and He answered to the crowd "Let he that is without sin cast the first stone." Then he told the woman to "Go and sin no more."

Also, in the Book of Mormon, it says some pretty harsh things about unsavory lawyers and judges. They were partly responsible for bringing down the ancient civilization in the Americas. Here are some interesting references. The first reference is about a man named Amulek who is telling the people about Jesus Christ (Alma 10: 12-27)

12 And now, when Amulek had spoken these words the people began to be astonished, seeing there was more than one witness who testified of the things whereof they were accused, and also of the things which were to come, according to the spirit of prophecy which was in them.

13 Nevertheless, there were some among them who thought to question them, that by their cunning devices they might catch them in their words, that they might find witness against them, that they might deliver them to their judges that they might be judged according to the law, and that they might be slain or cast into prison, according to the crime which they could make appear or witness against them.

14 Now it was those men who sought to destroy them, who were lawyers, who were hired or appointed by the people to administer the law at their times of trials, or at the trials of the crimes of the people before the judges.

15 Now these lawyers were learned in all the arts and cunning of the people; and this was to enable them that they might be skilful in their profession.

16 And it came to pass that they began to question Amulek, that thereby they might make him cross his words, or contradict the words which he should speak.

17 Now they knew not that Amulek could know of their designs. But it came to pass as they began to question him, he perceived their thoughts, and he said unto them: O ye wicked and perverse generation, ye lawyers and hypocrites, for ye are laying the foundations of the devil; for ye are laying traps and snares to catch the holy ones of God.

18 Ye are laying plans to pervert the ways of the righteous, and to bring down the wrath of God upon your heads, even to the utter destruction of this people.

19 Yea, well did Mosiah say, who was our last king, when he was about to deliver up the kingdom, having no one to confer it upon, causing that this people should be governed by their own voices—yea, well did he say that if the time should come that the voice of this people should choose iniquity, that is, if the time should come that this people should fall into transgression, they would be ripe for destruction.

20 And now I say unto you that well doth the Lord judge of your iniquities; well doth he cry unto this people, by the voice of his angels: Repent ye, repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

21 Yea, well doth he cry, by the voice of his angels that: I will come down among my people, with equity and justice in my hands.

22 Yea, and I say unto you that if it were not for the prayers of the righteous, who are now in the land, that ye would even now be visited with utter destruction; yet it would not be by flood, as were the people in the days of Noah, but it would be by famine, and by pestilence, and the sword.

23 But it is by the prayers of the righteous that ye are spared; now therefore, if ye will cast out the righteous from among you then will not the Lord stay his hand; but in his fierce anger he will come out against you; then ye shall be smitten by famine, and by pestilence, and by the sword; and the time is soon at hand except ye repent.

24 And now it came to pass that the people were more angry with Amulek, and they cried out, saying: This man doth revile against our laws which are just, and our wise lawyers whom we have selected.

25 But Amulek stretched forth his hand, and cried the mightier unto them, saying: O ye wicked and perverse generation, why hath Satan got such great hold upon your hearts? Why will ye yield yourselves unto him that he may have power over you, to blind your eyes, that ye will not understand the words which are spoken, according to their truth?

I think America is pretty much where the people were in the above passage. There are still enough righteous people in America today who believe in Jesus Christ and pray every day for this nation. It sounds just like most lawyers and judges in America today. Later on in the same chapter:
26 For behold, have I testified against your law? Ye do not understand; ye say that I have spoken against your law; but I have not, but I have spoken in favor of your law, to your condemnation.

27 And now behold, I say unto you, that the foundation of the destruction of this people is beginning to be laid by the unrighteousness of your lawyers and your judges.

32 Now the object of these lawyers was to get gain; and they got gain according to their employ.

From another reference in 3 Nephi 6:
20 And there began to be men inspired from heaven and sent forth, standing among the people in all the land, preaching and testifying boldly of the sins and iniquities of the people, and testifying unto them concerning the redemption which the Lord would make for his people, or in other words, the resurrection of Christ; and they did testify boldly of his death and sufferings.

21 Now there were many of the people who were exceedingly angry because of those who testified of these things; and those who were angry were chiefly the chief judges, and they who had been high priests and lawyers; yea, all those who were lawyers were angry with those who testified of these things.

22 Now there was no lawyer nor judge nor high priest that could have power to condemn any one to death save their condemnation was signed by the governor of the land.

23 Now there were many of those who testified of the things pertaining to Christ who testified boldly, who were taken and put to death secretly by the judges, that the knowledge of their death came not unto the governor of the land until after their death.

27 Now it came to pass that those judges had many friends and kindreds; and the remainder, yea, even almost all the lawyers and the high priests, did gather themselves together, and unite with the kindreds of those judges who were to be tried according to the law.

28 And they did enter into a covenant one with another, yea, even into that covenant which was given by them of old, which covenant was given and administered by the devil, to combine against all righteousness.

29 Therefore they did combine against the people of the Lord, and enter into a covenant to destroy them, and to deliver those who were guilty of murder from the grasp of justice, which was about to be administered according to the law.

30 And they did set at defiance the law and the rights of their country; and they did covenant one with another to destroy the governor...


127 posted on 04/12/2007 6:38:49 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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