Still a little rich for my blood, but a very nice little trap gun.
Posted on 04/09/2007 9:06:42 AM PDT by scottdeus12
Hello all. I'm in the midst of purchasing a shotgun for my Birthday. I don't hunt, but might someday. I'll more than likely be using the gun for skeet shooting. I have two friends who have different opinions; one wants me to purchase a Remington 11-87; the other the Ruger Red Label (Over and Under).
I have a $2,000 cap limit.
Any input would be appreciated!
“I WANT TO BUY A GUN!!!”
Hilarious. And I’ll do it too!
Thanks TL.....I’m leaning towards the auto-loaders myself......
My 11-87 buddy says the super mag is the way to go.
Scott
The best bargain for clay sports is the Remington 1100, which if it’s one with interchangable chokes can be used for skeet, trap and sporting clays.
Ruger RL’s tend to have two types of owners, one’s who love them and ones that hate them. IMO it’s not the best gun for high volume shooting.
For under $2K you should be able to find a used but solid Beretta Silver Pigeon, Browning XS Skeet or Sporting. Others include SKB, etc...
For skeet I use a Beretta Silver Pigeon II in 12 ga, a Verona GC692LX in 20 and 28, and a Winchester 101 in .410.
It is a beefed up AK reciever, most AK parts will attach to it or fit it. It’s even made in the same Kalashnikov/Izhmash factory.
Alas, that’s illegal - it’s considered a destructive device by the ATF.
If you’re worried about the economic effect of gun bans, buy a $200 Mossberg shotgun, and 15 stripped AR-15 receivers.
Or, if you don’t want a project, but the cheap shotgun and a .308 battle rifle (FN-FAL, HK-91, M1A, etc.)
But buy and read “Boston’s Gun Bible” first, if you are not already a firearms purchasing expert.
Seriously.
There are many things to consider in the purchase of a shotgun.
However, one thing must and that is fit.
Visit your local libray for books on clay shooting. Read back issues of “Sporting Clays” and other shotgun magazines.
The point is to learn how to properly bring up the shotgun and what is then a good fitting firearm. Learn what you are looking for before you start trying on firearms.
You can’t go wrong with either.
Lucky dog you... I could only get two franchises at the local schools. Elementary schools at that.
A good source of info:
http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showforum=2
Thing about shotguns is one size does not fit all. I’ve owned Berreta 686,Siver Fox, 682,390 Auto, Winchester 101 (both barrels), Belgum grade over/under, Browning Citori’s, single barrel trap (can’t remember the model) and a Charles Daly over/under. Shotguns are an extention of your arm and no gun fits everybody.
Wish I never would have traded that 101.
The 3.5” shells actually give up some velocity to the 3” magnums for only a little extra payload of shot.
Great for putting a heavy load on a turkey in the grass but useless wing shooting or sporting clays.
I’ve also heard that you might have some trouble cycling the lower power target loads, what you’ll shoot most, with the super mag. Not to mention the extra recoil. A full power
3 1/2” turkey load has the same recoil of a big bore African game rifle. Fine for one shot on a turkey but will bruise you and guaranteed to induce flinching.
L
I can't offer much advice regarding skeet guns, and my over-under work has mostly been afield on rabbits, my interest in bird and upland game shooting having ended when my decade-long hunting partner and friend had finally retrieved her last birdie. My use for shotguns nowadays is mostly confined to fighting shotguns, and those mostly as vehicular equipment and for front-door chore purposes at night.
I think your better pick is a 12-gauge 11-87. They're reasonably reliable, and MSRP runs around $783 for the 11-87 Premier Skeet version. Pick up a 21" Remington #29623 Premier Deer Barrel with Rifle Sights and screw-in Rem Choke at vabout $205, and you're almost in business. Get a Choate or Scattergun Technologies 4-shot magazine extension and keep it handy; when shooting skeet or if you go hunting you won't need it, but if your Dad is right, troubles may follow and having the same magazine capacity [eight] as an M1 Garand may be useful. Throw a sling swivel for the buttstock in the box with the mag extension and include a sling of your choice, unneeded for skeet and not common with most hunters other than those after deer or turkey. You should still be under or just over an even $1000, leaving the rest for you to spend on ammunition.
You'll find that the 11-87 wears out the neoprene o-rings in its gas system over time, so either pick up a set of the gunsmithing manuals specific to the 11-87 [also available on DVD] and a couple of sets of the necessary replacement parts, or have a local gunsmith show you how to install them.
If you're so inclined, you could spend the second $1000 on a second identical gun, which could be a spare for you, or a twin for Dad or for someone else who you'd be comfortable with so equipped. Alternately, you could spend half on the shotgun and the better part of $1000 more on a good M1 Garand, which would get you right up in there for target shooting out to 600 yards...and with an 8-shot semiauto rifle, just like your shotgun is.
That may be a minor consideration for most skeet shooters. But there are those who specialize, and those others who are generalists who deal reasonably well with a variety of tasks and disciplines while looking for the one they choose to put more effort into toward skill development.
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