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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

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To: Lizarde

” I think we have to be careful not to fall for the media spin and the HKS spin...this was a joint request for a continuance - Larry agreed to the delay...he could have stayed and fought it out - he didn’t. “

Exactly!! The media, CTV, as an example, has been so pro HKS, its sickening. They and HKS have managed to portray Virgie as a money grubbing monster, when its clearly obvious who has been after the $$$$$$$’s all this time - HKS. He not only sold photos of Daniel’s funeral, but we’ve even heard photos of Daniel with a tube down his throat shortly after he died.

Bottom line is Virgie has lost her daughter and her grandson, within a very short period of time, and is still in unbearable sorrow and pain. Perhaps she has misplaced guilt over not going to the Bahamas right after Daniel died and literally camping out, until she could try and help her daughter escape from HKS. She would know more than anyone else, how strong a hold HKS has had on her family.

Even when Anna tried to reach out to Virgie, HKS managed to put a stop to that by hanging up the phone and even changing phone numbers. Virgie surely has heard the PI’s reports of Daniel’s fear of HKS. I can’t imagine how horrible that must have been for her to hear.

Virgie knows how determined Stern is to not allow her to even touch DL, therefore she probably wants something in writing to be sure she will be able to visit with her grand-daughter. Several posts back, I read a post which stated Virgie only wanted to have a couple of weeks of visits with DL per year.

Virgie also has no way of knowing what kind of agreements Stern has manipulated Larry into signing. We all know of how Stern had a meeting with Larry and Ford Shelley and asked them both to sign an confidential agreement, iirc. Both of them had NO attorney, but HKS had TWO, not counting his own abilities as an attorney. I hope Larry remembers the past and the agreement he was forced to sign in 2006, which if true appeared to be very threatening and appears to be similar to the Hatten deal.

You’d think Stern would have crawled under a rock after the DNA results. But no. Instead, he’s still acting like he’s running the show and demanding the ridiculous transfer time or whatever name they are calling it. Even more outrageous is the way he gets in front of the microphones and invites Larry over to * The House *, like its his house. Dang! That guy sure has a huge sense of entitlement to things and even people who are clearly not his, imho.

Question - does anyone know why Daniel would have needed a lawyer to represent HIS ESTATE after he died??? What kind of an estate would a 20 year old have?? If Daniel had lots of money, you can bet HKS is controlling it.

I doubt Anna had any idea of what all HKS was doing with her assets or Daniel’s. Anna was up against way too many powerful players, armed with too many tools, such as hypnosis, and drugs. Also if she was suffering from a thyroid problem, the parnoid symptoms would have played perfectly into those who sought to confuse and control her.

A good example was the planned ‘I hate mommy dearest’ ET video. I wonder what the Las Vegas odds would be on having such a tape for a time such as now? NG showed it again on her show tonight or said she was going to show it, at which point I shut the tv off. TV’s back on, and am watching Greta. Liz, I’m still so shocked that Greta changed sides on the Natalee/Aruba case. I doubt I’ll ever watch her show again, if she switches to the HKS team.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know I agreed with you about the media spin and hype. Since the court has a gag order in place, we won’t really know the truth until the dust settles. Until then, I don’t buy a single thing Stern says. Sorry for taking so many words to say what could have been said in just a few! ;) ;)


4,781 posted on 04/13/2007 7:36:50 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: msgumshoe

“LB is trying to navigate in shark infested waters and is having to keep his enemies close right now.”

You are so right. It’s a terrible time to learn to swim with so much at stake.


4,782 posted on 04/13/2007 7:37:47 PM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT(everything not sourced should be regarded as IMO))
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To: Lizarde
I am afraid to see what will happen when it is time for HKS to pack up Dannielynn’s things and hand her over to Larry.
After that comment about not accepting Larry as her true father..it has me a bit worried. My hubby thinks i’m nuts that i let this mess get to me, he says you dont know these people...why do you let it bother you? I’m like I may not know them...but an innocent child is the “prize” here and i fear for her safety. I just hope they all have HER best interest in mind.
After all that has happen I worry about her safety. And I dont trust HKS
4,783 posted on 04/13/2007 7:38:34 PM PDT by shywolf
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To: Rte66

LB’s attorney is on with Nancy Grace right now... Virgie is the fly in the ointment..... and Larry is not going to share custody, she can be grandma, but no shared custody.


4,784 posted on 04/13/2007 7:38:58 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Lizarde

Thanks, I thought that I might have missed some discussion. It sounds as if he is well connected.


4,785 posted on 04/13/2007 7:39:22 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: msgumshoe

“How ironic that the laws ANS wanted to exploit to keep the baby for herself with no interference are now the same laws that could spell her worst nightmare if her mother gets her way.”

IMO, I think that if Larry B agreed, that allowing Vergie ANY kind of visitation, would be anna’s worst ‘nightmare’, Larry B would not go along with it and be trying to work something out on visitation with Virgie. The only person preventing things from moving forward, is HKS, who will not allow LB to give Vergie access to DL, at all.


4,786 posted on 04/13/2007 7:39:35 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: Kimberly GG

That is not the impression Larry’s two lady attorney’s just gave Nancy Grace... they indicated it is with Virgie.


4,787 posted on 04/13/2007 7:41:47 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Just showed Debra Rose on Nancy Grace — she says Custody — Virgie has wanted from day one.....


4,788 posted on 04/13/2007 7:44:42 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

But no one was talking about custody or even shared custody recently.


4,789 posted on 04/13/2007 7:44:50 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Lizarde

aaaah....lol...I’m ‘blowing my brains out’ with very loud KT Tunstal music....maybe if I just go watch some of her You Tube performances it will take my mind off everything. Music has a magical way of changing moods ;)


4,790 posted on 04/13/2007 7:44:52 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Larry’s sister Judy on with Nancy Grace — says everyone can have the money they just want Dannielynn.. says they (the whole family and Larry) care less for any money, they jsut want to bring the baby home..... they rejoice having her as part of their lives...


4,791 posted on 04/13/2007 7:45:51 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I’ve heard her say that, too - she also calls the baby Daniel Lynn. She’s going too far in the feminazi direction and not listening to Virgie enough, IMHO. I’ve watched their interaction.


4,792 posted on 04/13/2007 7:46:37 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Just stated on Nancy Grace this isn’t about visitation this is for full custody.


4,793 posted on 04/13/2007 7:47:12 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Rte66

Careful with your computer. Last summer I went away for four days. Before I left, I turned my computer off. It was plugged into a $25.00-$30.00 surger I bought at Staples.

When I returned, my neighbor told me there was a bad storm over the weekend. When I turned my computer on, I had very little power for about 5 minutes, then nothing. I took it to a local repair shop. They, and also Best Buy repairmen, told me it got zapped by lightning....couldn’t be repaired. I had to buy a new one.

They told me to unplug it during a storm and also when leaving the house.


4,794 posted on 04/13/2007 7:47:41 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Are those the FL ones - Brown and Hass?


4,795 posted on 04/13/2007 7:48:20 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Are you saying you believe she should have custody of the baby instead of Larry? What abut Larry’s family... he provided the other 1/2 of the DNA and they don’t want money, they want the baby.


4,796 posted on 04/13/2007 7:49:01 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: windchime

Debra Rose told an interviewer on Nancy Grace Full Custody.


4,797 posted on 04/13/2007 7:50:30 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: toldyou

I always do! Always. I had two modems zapped through the telephone, and not even from lightning in my close area, but from a remote strike at another phone switching station.

I unplug and stay unplugged for a long time, because there can be stray electrical sparks in the humid atmosphere. I’ve had that happen, too - an hour after any lightning. A “dry” electrical storm with no rain.


4,798 posted on 04/13/2007 7:51:26 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Deborah Rose is like Oprah or Maya Angelou - “I am Woman, Hear me Roar.”


4,799 posted on 04/13/2007 7:52:36 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66
"I thought for a minute I heard thunder, but it wasn’t - it was my head exploding because I went to CTV forums for a minute and accidentally read some posts without thinking. LOL!"

ROFLMAO! Glad you are safe. Bumpy night ahead for some.

4,800 posted on 04/13/2007 7:53:43 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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