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FREEPERS!!! WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO US??
April 5, 2007 | Self

Posted on 04/05/2007 8:46:45 PM PDT by Pistolshot

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To: Between the Lines
When we give up our principles to vote for our party, we become a party without principles.

My Gosh, it sounds like you're in second grade. Excuse me, but I choose to live in the real world.

361 posted on 04/06/2007 7:16:07 AM PDT by Hildy ("man's reach exceeds his grasp"? It's a lie: man's grasp exceeds his nerve.)
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To: Pub Linkser--80
. Romney or Thompson could win all the states Bush won with a pro-life position.

What bizarro world are you living in? DId you actually see the results of the 2006 election? I swear the extremes here are living in a time warp.

362 posted on 04/06/2007 7:18:15 AM PDT by Hildy ("man's reach exceeds his grasp"? It's a lie: man's grasp exceeds his nerve.)
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To: narses
Poor form. Bad manners.

Well, you're the expert on that.

363 posted on 04/06/2007 7:25:56 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: EDINVA

Excellent post, ED. I agree 100 percent.

If the country is gone, what rights will matter?


364 posted on 04/06/2007 7:31:06 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: kevkrom
In the end, the vast majority of FR rallied around the winner,

For some reason, I don't think that is going to happen this time.

365 posted on 04/06/2007 7:35:38 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: xzins
This is where I have taken my stand, and I will not be moved.

Amen!

Together, God willing, we will hold this hill.

366 posted on 04/06/2007 7:38:11 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Hildy; Howlin; Peach

367 posted on 04/06/2007 7:51:06 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: stylecouncilor

I remember lurking on this board in 1998 and there were the McCain groups versus the Bush groups. Nothing has changed and that’s why I like coming here.


368 posted on 04/06/2007 8:03:51 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: Howlin
For some reason, I don't think that is going to happen this time.

Sure it will. What's mot to like about Fred Thompson? ;)

369 posted on 04/06/2007 8:04:24 AM PDT by kevkrom (Tagline under construction -- please use alternate witticsims)
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To: potlatch

370 posted on 04/06/2007 8:10:46 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: kevkrom

They’ll find something. Count on it.


371 posted on 04/06/2007 8:21:45 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Pistolshot

The fall national election was apparently one of those psychological shocks we get from time to time. Following a period of adjustment we will be fine and possibly slightly wiser.


372 posted on 04/06/2007 8:24:34 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: P-Marlowe
“If the republicans put up a pro-abortion standard bearer, then you’d better get used to it. Pro-Abortion people are loyal to the democrats. Rudy will not garner more than a handful. He cannot win.”

Exactly.

Rudy isn’t just “pro-abortion” he wants tax funded abortions. His position on illegal immigration is to the left of Ted Kennedy. He is a gun-grabber and is in favor of Gay marriage. Except for being tougher on crime, he is basically agrees with the ACLU on most issues.

He can’t win and will split the Republican party. Nominate Rudy and you can kiss the Midwest and most of the south goodbye.

Why are so-called conservatives pushing a man who ran on the liberal party ticket? Rudy has never ran or held elected federal office. He has never voted on the national issues. We have no idea how he will behave on issues like taxes or federal spending. He has no record of appointing conservative judges.

He is a liberal, who is tough on crime and the war on terror. Thats it. He is another Arnold on a national scale.

373 posted on 04/06/2007 8:29:16 AM PDT by pablo H (Remember '96- No more Doles!)
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To: Howlin
They’ll find something. Count on it.

There'll always be a noisy minority on just about any issue, let alone a Presidential candidate, but the bulk of FR will eventually coalesce around the nominee. (Unless that nominee is so offensive to the tenets of conservatism that the GOP itself splits along ideological lines.)

Some may declare they're "holding their noses", or "choosing the lesser of two evils", but they'll still come along. There will be some holdouts, who cite various reasons why the nominee isn't "pure" enough, but they will be the minority.

374 posted on 04/06/2007 8:36:37 AM PDT by kevkrom (Tagline under construction -- please use alternate witticsims)
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To: Pub Linkser--80
You’re right, and it would be a long four years before Jeb Bush or Romney rides in to save the country in 2012.

Won't the country be all right under a Hillary White House? I mean, that's the impression I get from so many Rudy-bashers, who keep yelping they see no difference between the two.

375 posted on 04/06/2007 9:05:56 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: quidnunc
The 'principled conservatives' who sat out the election last November are particlly responsible for the Democrats being in charge of both houses of Congress.

If that's what you claim, then why do you want to piss us off again? Simply make sure Fred Thompson gets the nomination and this will be a non-issue.

376 posted on 04/06/2007 9:10:01 AM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: Pub Linkser--80
What would happen in the next few years if Roe is overturned?

Abortions will still go on unabated.

377 posted on 04/06/2007 9:22:46 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Hildy

Sure I saw the results of the 2006 election. We lost a lot of close races primarily because of discontent among the voters about Iraq. But Rudy, Romney, and Thompson would not be directly responsible for Iraq and thus I believe all of them can win a national election against Hillary or Obama. Also, a lot can happen between now and then, as we see with the Iranian nuclear crisis heating up right now.


378 posted on 04/06/2007 9:52:54 AM PDT by Pub Linkser--80 (Seer, sage, soothsayer, and former second-string outfielder for the Oklahoma Sooners.)
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To: P-Marlowe

That’s a good argument against legal abortion. But remember that the major reason why the murder rate is as low as it is in America is because the vast majority of people believe murder is wrong. The secondary reason is because it is illegal. Murder is also illegal in places like Columbia and Russia and yet the murder rate in those countries is much higher than in America. Look at illegal drug use, for example. That is illegal also, and yet there is still massive, widespread drug use in America because so many people do not think illegal drugs are wrong. To really eliminate any kind of activity in society, we have to change the belief system of society so that the vast majority of people believe that activity is wrong. That’s the big problem with abortion—so many people do not believe it is wrong. Those are the people who would be the clients of illegal abortionists. It seems like the place to start is by telling the truth about abortion and that a life really does begin at conception. Then hopefully we can gradually change the mistaken belief that abortion is not wrong.


379 posted on 04/06/2007 10:06:25 AM PDT by Pub Linkser--80 (Seer, sage, soothsayer, and former second-string outfielder for the Oklahoma Sooners.)
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To: Swordfished
"We’re being told the world’s going to end unless ..."

The same sorts of things are being said from our side. I remember the whole Clinton is a rapist/murderer/drug-dealer/lying scumbag and if he gets elected or re-elected then we are doomed.

Similar things are starting to be said about Guiliani, McCain, and Romney.

The good news is no matter how bad our leaders our we seem to muddle through. The bad news is that even if by accident we happen to select the best person for the job, he will inevitably be ground down by the system until he is also forced to make stupid mistakes.

380 posted on 04/06/2007 10:21:20 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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