Posted on 04/05/2007 8:46:45 PM PDT by Pistolshot
I came here in 1998 looking for conservative, logical, thoughtful conversation and debate on the things that matter to us the most. I was a Reagan Republican. One of those who had watched in horror as our embassy staff in Tehran was taken by fanatics. The answer should have been overwhelming force, but it was Carter, that limp-wristed, can’t-we-just talk-this-out, weakling who had made the military a shambles, and stripped it of its soul because of VietNam. I knew from the beginning that there was no room in this world for weakness and that was the beginning of my road to conservatism.
Now here we are, in the beginnings of a campaign to deny the Democrats not only the White House, but the two houses of Congress. It is extremely early in this race, the leading candidates that have announced are far from acceptable to a large majority of us. Yet, day after day on this site we have the Rudy machine, the McCain people, Mitt’s people, and every other supported candidate backer posting missives about their guy. Some are repeated vitriol that has no debatable content, and only begs to be ignored. Some of it is the adage of ‘Don’t like it, too bad. He will be our candidate.’ In the past I’ve seen posters here who were thoughtful, logical, literally passionate about impeaching Clinton, but with a HUGE degree of civility.
What is taking place here, and I am guilty of it too, so don’t think I am pointing fingers here, is the destruction of what is good about this site. WE ARE CONSERVATIVES, first and foremost. We have our passions that lead us to the candidates we have running. Debate is the give and take of ideas to reach a consensus about a direction. A direction we should all look at for the country, not because of the ‘he can beat Hillary’ dogma, but because the candidate we choose is THE one to carry what our hopes and dreams are for this great nation. I have seen posters here demean others, insult integrities, bash people they DON’T EVEN KNOW ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, and generally look like some of the slime that lurks on DU.
We are supposed to be better than that. It’s time we stop acting like we cannot debate without insult, stop treating each other as if our opinions don’t matter or our vote. It’s time that Jim starts looking around and suspending or closing some accounts for this type of behavior until it gets under control.
We are not DU here. The candidate we vote to carry the platform will be the one who reaches out to the most diverse among us. If that doesn’t happen for your candidate, I’m sorry. But to stoop to some of the tactics I’ve seen here based on a persons opinion or religion is despicable and speaks poorly for all of us.
If Hillary were elected with a Democrat Congress, don’t expect Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi begging for any compromise from the White House.
I understand those that say Rudy is not a conservative. I think that is fair. It is going too far to say that there is no difference, and for evidence of that just look to your tagline.
One thing about Rudy — whether one agrees with him or not on an issue, the man will fight. Too many Republicans in Congress and elsewhere have gone wobbly on supporting the troops and their mission, fighting the ‘rat b*st*rds, etc. Rudy had been outspoken on supporting the War regardless of popularity — and to his credit, so has McCain.
There might be quite the catfight between Her Majestic Queen Nancy I and Comrade Hillary, though.
If the Queen decided to fly to another country to usurp thunderthighs’s authority there would be a scramble of F-16s to blow Nancy I right out of the sky.
You’re right, and it would be a long four years before Jeb Bush or Romney rides in to save the country in 2012.
I won’t vote for a gun banner or a pro-abortionist. Rudy is both. That is all there is to it.
Agree...
Maybe it has something to a day's worth, [really seven year's worth], of nasty personal attacks on conservatives and conservatism.
Free Republic Opinion Poll:
Would you be for or against McCain?
Member Opinion
against 92.4% 2,989
for 7.6% 247
McCain and Stem Cell Research Round-up
SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO"
SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO" Part II
U.S. Sen. John McCain is no War Hero
John McCain: The Manchurian Candidat
McCain Is Booed by Labor Activists
McCain Rides to Kerry's Rescue: "John Kerry is Not Weak on Defense" (Today Show alert)
John McCain SCREAMS AT 9/11 FSA MEMBERS FOR OPPOSING HIS BILL TO GIVE AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS
A number of articles on McCain. (some the same as above)
McCain Seeks to Change California Primary
McCain/Soros by Rabbi Areyh Spero
Soros' "Reform" (an article about Soros‘ instrumental hand in McCain/Feingold)
Not Child‘s Play [McCain/Schumer bill could effect FR?]
McCain's Letter (McCain aligns with Global Enviro activists)
The Turning Point on Global Warming (McCain and Lieberman Op-Ed Alert)
Climate bill sets stage for debate (Sens. McCain, Obama, and Lieberman join forces)
McCain Looked into Caucusing with Democrats
McCain Still Disliked by Fiscal Conservatives (Club For Growth)
John McCain Goes Left for Money
McCain, Obama Make Deal on Financing
Sens. Snowe, Collins to head Maine exploratory committee for McCain
Double Talk Express. McCain in his own words. VIDEO
More YOUTUBE - McCain On Abortion (UH OH! YouTube Has a Video of Him in 1999)
Sadly that is true, but voting for the lesser of two evils still leaves us with evil.
Well what would be the consequences today of overturning Roe v. Wade? What would happen in the next few years if Roe is overturned?
Somebody who doesn't suffer fools gladly, IMO.
Fred Thompson better hurry up and jump into the race so we can be “for” somebody and not just settle for some marginal figure that we hope might beat Hitllary.
That has nothing to do with how I will vote. I am against all support of abortion not just Roe V. Wade.
Yes but no human is all good. Only God and Jesus are completely good. So any man or woman who we elect will be imperfect and wrong in some decisions. We have to choose the best candidate running in the election.
winner winner chicken dinner
I started a vanity on McCain right after the election. I called him the “ultimate RINO” for all of him backstabbing attacks. I can’t stand the man and believe he had no business in the White House, but if he was the nominee running against Hillary I’d vote for him and then puke.
Well said.
-—I won’t vote for a gun banner or a pro-abortionist. Rudy is both. That is all there is to it.-—
That is exactly it.
Then explain to me how Rudy “supports abortion” by his opposition to overturning Roe v. Wade. You say he supports abortion, so then you have to explain how overturning Roe would lead to more abortions, which is probably not true. Overturning Roe would just change the location where abortions occur and start up illegal abortion activity.
Any time you make any activity illegal, criminals will start up that activity IF they can make money from it. That would surely happen with abortion.
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