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Here Comes the Judge! Taurus .45/410 Revolver
gunblast.com ^ | February 19th, 2007 | Jeff Quinn

Posted on 03/28/2007 6:06:23 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Taurus has introduced a handgun that may just be the ideal trail gun for those of us who live, work, and play among timber rattlers, cottonmouths, copperheads, and diamondbacks. It should also prove just as useful for our Western friends who must contend with the sidewinder and the Western version of the diamondback. I don’t know which I hate more, as all are ornery when cornered, but the cottonmouth is the only snake that I have ever had personally come after me. Most snakes will slither off if they can, except for maybe the copperhead, who just lies there quietly grinning and waiting for your approach. At least the rattlers will sound off and give you a chance to soil yourself just before he sinks those fangs into your flesh. However, in my experience, the cottonmouth is downright mean.

There are those in our society who look with disdain and loathing upon those of us who kill poisonous snakes - mostly they live in nice apartments or suburban subdivisions. If they are really well-heeled they call them "estates". However, those of us who live in the Southern woods (forests, for you snake-loving high society types), for about eight months out of the year, we must keep a careful eye out for poisonous snakes as we walk amongst the chiggers, ticks, and poison oak.

I do not kill non-poisonous snakes such as black snakes and chicken snakes, for they provide a service and do no harm, unless you happen to step on one at night, at which point they might cause you to hurt yourself trying to hop around on one toe without touching the ground, which should probably be an Olympic sport in itself. However, if I find a poisonous snake around my house, I will do all that I can to kill it. I have two young grandchildren that play around here, and a snakebite could easily kill one of them, or even kill their dear old Grandpa, and I just will not risk it. Now, if some short-haired, Volvo-driving, apartment-dwelling, cappuccino-drinking, Nancy Pelosi fan club chick wants to send hateful email, let the games begin. However, I really don’t think that those women read Gunblast, so hopefully, I am safe.

I always carry a handgun, unless I am flying what was once termed the "friendly skies". When out deeper in the woods or down by the creek, I carry one loaded with shot loads if I am wandering around there during the itching season. This new Taurus is chambered for the .410 shotshell, and packs a pretty good payload of shot to reliably dispatch crawling vermin. For the vermin that walk upright on their hind legs, it also chambers and fires the .45 Colt cartridge, making this a very versatile handgun. Taurus calls this five-shot revolver "The Judge", which seems appropriate, even if the name will most likely offend the type of person referenced in the preceding paragraph. It weighs in at just under 36 ounces, and packs rather comfortably holstered on the hip or across the chest in one of Rob Leahy’s Grizzly Tuff holsters, with the latter preferred if any riding or wading is anticipated.

Patterning the .410 shotshells proved that this revolver is, as I expected, a close range proposition, which is just fine. Any farther than twelve feet away, the pattern opens rather quickly. The number 7-½ shot at that range is pretty sparse. I would have liked to have some number 9 shotshells for testing, but none was to be found. Anyway, the 7-½ penetrates better, and at normal "A SNAKE!!!" range, it does just fine. The spread is wide enough to assure a good hit, and the pattern tight enough to assure a quick kill.

I also tried some number 4 shot at closer range, and it is with larger shot such as this that The Judge becomes better suited for solving social disputes of the most unfriendly kind. I see this as an ideal weapon to keep on the car seat to quickly resolve an attempted car-jacking. When a punk jerks the car door open, a face full of number four shot should rapidly dissuade the social misfit from wanting anything to do with your car, and should also render him unable to pass the eye exam for a driver’s license for the rest of his miserable life. If this seems cruel, so be it. If someone sneaks into a parking lot and hot-wires a car, that is one thing, but if he tries to forcibly take an occupied vehicle at a traffic light, he can learn to read Braille in prison as far as I’m concerned.

I tested the penetration of the number four shot loads on some aluminum bottles (no, I did not empty them. I found them that way) and some tough cured country ham hocks. The shot completely penetrated both the lightweight bottles and the tough meat, and would surely do the same on a close range snake or small game for the pot. Anything farther than about twelve feet, and the cylinder needs to be stoked with the .45 Colt loads.

I really had no high expectations of accuracy using the .45 Colt ammo, considering the long cylinder and fixed sights with the fiber optic bead front. I was, however, very pleasantly surprised at the practical accuracy of the weapon, especially at combat ranges. After shooting the gun offhand, I wished that I had ordered an insert for my Ransom Rest to see just how accurate the gun would be without the handicap of the shooter influencing the outcome. At any rate, the Judge is not meant to be a paper-punching target revolver, but rather a practical and versatile fighting weapon. At seven yards, the five shot cylinder would place the bullets right at point of aim, and grouped tightly together. The double action trigger pull was smooth, and measured nine and one-half pounds. The single action pull measured a crisp four and three-quarters pounds, and in either mode, the Judge was a delight to shoot. Recoil was easily controlled, and the Taurus Ribber grips took any bite out of the Judge’s bark. The grip is very comfortable, and the backstrap well-padded. The Judge has the "Taurus Security System" key lock, for those who like to use it. The test gun wears a three inch barrel, but longer barrels are offered. However, I think that the three inch is the better choice for social work. It is just a lot handier. The Judge also can be purchased with either two and one-half or three inch chambers, the test gun being the former. You also have a choice of blued or stainless steel. The test gun was very well finished, with no visible flaws, and functioned perfectly with all ammo tested. The barrel/cylinder gap measured .006 inch. The ejector rod is fully shrouded, and cylinder lockup was tight. The color casehardened hammer and trigger contrast nicely with the deep blue-black finish. The Judge has a nice, business-like appearance.

I was pleasantly surprised by the performance of the Judge, with both shotshells and solid bullet .45 Colt ammo. It offers a lot of versatility in snake country, and can be carried for urban defense loaded with shotshells, heavy .45 Colt hollowpoints, or a combination of both. A number four shot load followed by four hollowpoints might be just about ideal for social work.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Outdoors; Sports
KEYWORDS: 45410; banglist; revolver; taurus
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To: Just Lori

I just picked one up. They are hard to get. Sales are up. Don’t pay more than $478.00 for one. Some dealers are screwing people by charging over $600.00.


41 posted on 05/02/2008 8:42:48 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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To: Horatio Gates; JDoutrider

What do you guys think of this?


42 posted on 05/02/2008 9:03:16 AM PDT by Just Lori (There is nothing democrat-"ic" about democrats.)
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To: Just Lori

It’s on my list of must haves...


43 posted on 05/02/2008 2:52:52 PM PDT by JDoutrider (No 2nd Amendment... Know Tyranny)
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To: BenLurkin
I like it.

Buy me one.

44 posted on 05/02/2008 3:00:52 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: BenLurkin

Only $468.80!

Taurus aModel 45/410 Tracker Revolver 2441069T, 410 GA / 45 Long Colt, 6 1/2", Ribber Grip Overlay Grip, Matte Stainless Finish, 5 Rd Stock # [STK_SS17254]

45 posted on 05/02/2008 3:05:08 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: JDoutrider

That’s good enough for me!


46 posted on 05/02/2008 3:12:30 PM PDT by Just Lori (There is nothing democrat-"ic" about democrats.)
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To: dirtboy
Shot shells are made by CCI for .44 and .38. Any good . 44 mag or .357 mag can use them and both can also use reduced loads (.44 spl and .38 spl) as well. That Taurus may be fine, but look at those other options. For over all ammo cost and versatility, consider a 4” or 6” .357 mag.
47 posted on 05/02/2008 3:19:01 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: bmwcyle
I just picked one up. They are hard to get. Sales are up. Don’t pay more than $478.00 for one. Some dealers are screwing people by charging over $600.00.

Agreed. I went to an area gun show Saturday and out of about 100 dealers at the show only two had any. The first had a used 3" and asking $640.

Having done my homework I wished him good luck and moved on. I eventually found another one with a new 4" (which is exactly what I was looking for) blue in the box for $460 so I snatched it up. The dealer promptly put out another one. He had 4 total and echoed what several other dealers said, that they were on national back order.

Now to find some .45 long colts. No luck so far. Also on national back order around here.

48 posted on 03/02/2009 9:34:16 AM PST by Ron H. (I believe in and practice the 4 Gs : God, gold, guns and a garden)
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To: Ron H.

Check your local gun stores for Ammo. I buy some at each gun show. You will like this gun. My wife enjoys shooting it also.


49 posted on 03/02/2009 9:37:39 AM PST by bmwcyle (Obama voters, your 401 K's are dead. Now what?)
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To: bmwcyle
That's what I did Saturday evening and all day Sunday. Called and or visited about 15 or so outlets and checked some online dealers also currently out of stock. Only one shows any promise. A dealer in my area stated he should be getting some in about 2 weeks and suggested I visit him early as his supply likely won't last long.

I went to the Saxet gun show last Saturday in Conroe, TX and it was packed the most I've ever seen (est 2k+ in attendance at peak times). Usually there are about a dozen or more dealers selling ammo typically before the rush to stock ammo began. This time there was only 1 large dealer and their table / supply had been wiped clean by noon time when I got there.

There is another gun show this coming weekend about 65 miles across town and I intend to be there when the doors open with crossed fingers.

50 posted on 03/02/2009 10:03:20 AM PST by Ron H. (I believe in and practice the 4 Gs : God, gold, guns and a garden)
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To: Ron H.

At our gun shows, I work the Virginia Citizens Defense League table. I show up an hour before the public is let in and I do my shopping. Work the shows it pays off getting what you want. I also get better discounts at the tables wearing the badge from the VCDL table.


51 posted on 03/02/2009 11:02:21 AM PST by bmwcyle (Obama voters, your 401 K's are dead. Now what?)
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To: bmwcyle

Good idea, I’ll check into it.


52 posted on 03/02/2009 11:48:07 AM PST by Ron H. (I believe in and practice the 4 Gs : God, gold, guns and a garden)
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