The Pacheco Generator Story

http://www.mothersalert.org/pacheco.html ^ | 6/89

[johnandrhonda]

Total B.S.

[Leisler]

Big Oil got to him too. I have a similar process for gas generation that only requires time, beer and cabbage. I....there...there's a black window tinted Suburban coming up my drive...can't talk now....

[rawhide]

Interesting, hopefully others will continue his work.

[dljordan]

Queue the tin-foil-hat detractors. I love inventors.

[ikka]

Well the price of home heating oil in the NJ/PA area has been climbing a lot. Why not make a few of these for use as heating/electrical generators? There are plenty of rural places nearby where woodstoves, etc. are allowed.

[DB]

It takes more energy to separate the hydrogen and oxygen atoms in water than is released when it is burned and returns back to water.

Physical fact.

If it took less then you'd have perpetual motion (free energy).

[barb-tex]

Gollee!!You mean that you can actually get H2 from water by using an electrical current! Can I fill my Hummer(it has a battery) from my Garden hose. Since a patent is only good for 17 years some of you entrepreneurs ought to jump on this.
barbra ann

[johnny7]

LOL... one rung above the Cargo Cult mentality.

[barb-tex]

Don't confuse me with facts , you want to destroy my legend.
barbra ann

[HangThemHigh]

I confess to not reading all of the article, but it sounds to me like the metal is consumed and is the source of the missing energy. If so, the waste water with dissolved metals will be far worse than the air pollution from burning oil.

[econjack]

He's a video on a water-powered car. The article I found pointing to this link says the inventor was poisoned and died shortly after this report was aired.

http://www.befreetech.com/media/stan_meyers_bb.wmv

[Jaxter]

".. U.S. Vice President, Henry Wallace, while on a Good Will Tour of South America, saw the Pacheco generator run an automobile engine.."

[razorback-bert]

I will wait for the infocommerical on it.

[facedown]

It takes more energy to separate the hydrogen and oxygen atoms in water than is released when it is burned and returns back to water.

Yup.

[econjack]

...the waste water with dissolved metals will be far worse than the air pollution from burning oil.

It doesn't appear that's the case. I get the impression that the fuel cell is a closed-circuit technology. The water produced is the byproduct of burning hydrogen, which produces pure water and there is no contamination. I remember doing an experiment like this in my high school chemistry class. We put a spark in a test tube that we filled with hydrogen as a result of electrolysis. The spark ignited the hydrogen, which sounded almost like a dog's bark when it exploded. All that was left was a little water vapor in the test tube.

[Sudetenland]

It has been a while since my inorganic chemistry classes, but I cannot recall any metals that will spontaneously generate hydrogen in sea-water.

I know that some, like Zinc will do so in an acidic medium, but I can't think of any that will do so in an alkaline saline solution (except of course for metallic sodium, phosphorus, lithium etc. which are not stable as pure metals.

[muir_redwoods]

"Nan Waters, a consulting chemist with the Aesop Institute analyzed the generator and wrote the following report."

Aesop?

As in fable?

[William Terrell]

This looks like his invention at the patent office. It appears that the magnesium is consumed to produce the gas.

[Pete from Shawnee Mission]

One of the things that you need to be careful about when jumping car batteries is an explosion. Why? Hydrogen is produced in the battery. If this is a problem in current batteries, it does not seem impossible that hydrogen could be produced in this battery/generator. How much and how fast is another matter.

With a mineral water brine, hydrogen might be released by either by a current passing between the plates resulting in electrolysis, or something in the brine or on the plates that acts as a chemical catalyst that allows electrolysis at a lower self produced current, or something that is not electrolysis at all, but instead some chemical uncoupling of the H-O bonds.

I can't say if this thing is legitimate. It would be nice hear some independent chemists research this find out.

If this really did work, it sounds like he should have avoided energy companies in trying to market his product. He should have gone to companies that produce specialty metals, like Alcoa, whose product would be used in the manufacture of the generator.