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Former Canadian Defense Minister Says Alien Technology May Save Earth
All Headline News ^ | March 1, 2007 | Shaveta Bansal

Posted on 03/02/2007 3:40:30 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182

Ottawa, Canada (AHN) - A former Canadian defense minister is demanding that world governments disclose alien technology that could be used to solve the problem of climate change, a local newspaper has said. Hellyer, who served as defense minister in former prime minister Lester Pearson's cabinet in 1963, says knowing the fuel technology used by alleged aliens for driving their saucers or UFOs could eliminate the burning of fossil fuels thus saving the planet from the perils of climate change.

"I would like to see what (alien) technology there might be that could eliminate the burning of fossil fuels within a generation ... that could be a way to save our planet," the 83-year-old Hellyer, a public UFO advocate since 2005, told the Ottawa Citizen.

Hellyer said the governments should come forward and disclose the alien technology obtained during alleged UFO crashes. His appeal was in reference to the mysterious 1947 incident in Roswell, New Mexico, when the military officials declared having recovered a crashed "flying disc," a statement that was later annulled.

"We need to persuade governments to come clean on what they know. Some of us suspect they know quite a lot, and it might be enough to save our planet if applied quickly enough," he told the paper........"

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To: baubau

The UFO Challenge

December 1997

By Stanton Friedman

As a nuclear physicist who has had a serious interest in flying saucers since 1958, I have reached four major conclusions:

The evidence is overwhelming that Planet Earth is being visited by intelligently controlled extraterrestrial spacecraft. In other words, SOME UFOs are alien spacecraft. Most are not.

The subject of flying saucers represents a kind of Cosmic Watergate, meaning that some few people in major governments have known since July, 1947, when two crashed saucers and several alien bodies were recovered in New Mexico, that indeed SOME UFOs are ET. As noted in 1950, it's the most classified U.S. topic.

None of the arguments made against conclusions One and Two by a small group of debunkers such as Carl Sagan, my University of Chicago classmate for three years, can stand up to careful scrutiny.

The Flying Saucer story is the biggest story of the millennium: visits to Planet Earth by aliens and the U.S. government's cover-up of the best data (the bodies and wreckage) for over fifty years.

Since 1967 I have lectured on the subject "Flying Saucers ARE Real" at more than 600 colleges and over 100 professional groups in all fifty US states, nine Canadian Provinces, twelve cities in England and nine in other countries, with only eleven hecklers. I have also appeared on hundreds of radio and TV shows. Overall, I have probably answered about 35,000 questions about UFOs and secrecy.

It's clear that over 97% of the people have NOT read any of the five major scientific studies I discuss, and are unaware of the mountains of evidence that support my conclusions. They are also unaware of the scientific data, as opposed to tabloid nonsense. However, it is also clear from the Opinion Polls and from my own experience that indeed most people accept the notion that SOME UFOs are alien spacecraft. The greater the education, the MORE likely an individual is to accept this proposition. In an October 25, 1995, Oxford University Debate on the resolution "Planet Earth is being visited by intelligent extraterrestrial life", the affirmative side, of which I was a part, garnered 60% of Debate Union Member votes on the question. Ninety-two percent of 100,000 people calling during a TV Debate in London on June 27,1997, said Earth has been visited by aliens!

The problem is NOT that there is not enough evidence to justify my conclusions; but that most people, especially the noisy negativists, are unaware of the real, non-tabloid evidence.

Debunkers seem to employ four major rules:

What the public doesn't know, we certainly won't tell them. The largest official USAF UFO study isn't even mentioned in twelve anti-UFO books, though every one of those books' authors was aware of it.


Don't bother me with the facts, my mind is made up.

If one can't attack the data, attack the people. It is easier.

Do one's research by proclamation rather than investigation. It is much easier, and nobody will know the difference anyway.

Many major media people will concede that if indeed aliens are visiting earth, that would be a major story. But because they take great pride in their KNOWLEDGE of major stories, if this were happening they would know about it. But they don't. Therefore, anybody who says visits are real must be a crackpot.

I have noted four major reasons why the big names in science and journalism haven't jumped on the pro-UFO bandwagon:

Ignorance of the data. Scratch a debunker and one usually finds somebody who is putting down what he is not up on.

Fear of ridicule in sponsoring a thesis (only about ten have been submitted relating to UFOs) if a professor, or sponsoring a detailed reportorial investigation if an editor. I check all my audiences and find that, while in agreement with polls, 10% have had a sighting but only 5-10% of these witnesses have been willing to report what they saw. Biggest reason? Fear of ridicule.

Ego. If aliens were visiting Earth, they would call a press conference or ask to talk to the National Academy of Sciences. They haven't, so aliens must not be visiting. Flying saucers finish the job Copernicus started in taking man out of the middle of the universe. Priests fought Copernicus's ideas. Today guys in lab coats, rather than priestly robes, fight alien visitations.

Failure to use our knowledge of technology to understand UFO behavior. They say "It is impossible," rather than "I don't know how." Despite the absurd claims of certain ancient academics and fossilized physicists, it is clear on the basis of solid engineering studies that trips to nearby stars are feasible with round trip times shorter than the average person's lifetime -- using, for example, staged fission and fusion propulsion systems. I have worked on both. It's clear that technological progress comes from doing things differently in an unpredictable way. The history of science is littered with challenges, leveled by people who know nothing about the job at hand, against traditionally "impossible" claims.

The cult of S.E.T.I. (Silly Effort To Investigate) with its crazy notions that nobody would travel -- but that aliens, stuck at the level of radio, are trying to attract our attention -- mocks the notion of flying saucers, not by dealing with the evidence, but by proclamations about the ABSENCE of evidence. This ignores science.

I prove at every lecture that the NSA and CIA are withholding UFO data. Having worked under security for fourteen years, visited seventeen document archives, and having become aware of the huge black budgets of the NSA, NRO, CIA, DIA, etc., I know how easy it is to keep secrets. My nineteen years of study about crashed saucers, and thirteen years on the Majestic-12 documents have convinced me these are real. The challenge for us all, as we enter the new millennium, is to recognize that while our future is in space, we are not alone. I truly hope we qualify for admission to the Cosmic Kindergarten.


Stanton Friedman

From:

http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/sfchlng.html


121 posted on 03/03/2007 9:32:15 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Andrew Byler; All

In some respects about some topics . . . you just happen to be wrong.

In terms of the UFO stuff, ridicule, disinformation, threats etc. have worked very well to neutralize what leaks have occurred.

But there are nuts and bolts things that there have not even been rumors surface about. It depends on how big a project is and how important it is to keep the secret.

There are technologies to monitor and track what every individual involved in a project does and says. Some think that the ET's have had a major hand in our acquiring such technologies and even in helping us manage them to insure secrecy.

Folks who enter such black project never get out. Never. Not only are their lives forfeit--whatever families they have--their lives are forfeit as well.

As the rancher in Roswell on who's land the saucer crashed noted . . . after being kept nude in jail for several days . . . they threatened to kill him and every member of his family if he talked.

That's pretty convincing for a lot of folks.

Would it fail to convince you?


122 posted on 03/03/2007 9:36:23 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Candor7
not believe that the phenomenon and politics are quite ready to be mixed

It is amazing what mixes with politics. Global warming, alternate fuels, healthcare.

123 posted on 03/03/2007 9:36:54 AM PST by RightWhale (300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
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To: Diggity

Certainly you are quite right.

But I think the globalist puppet masters in charge of the UFO technologies are happy to have the other military play their little games and keep the populace distracted with blood letting far and wide. It's a good smoke screen as well as distraction while they tighten the screws toward the tyrannical global government--which the UFO technologies will help make all the greater a straight jacket for all individuals.

Besides, gotta have lots of ways to reduce the world's population to 500,000,000.


124 posted on 03/03/2007 9:38:16 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: truemiester

LOL.

WOOP WOOP.

Would be interesting to see your face when your construction on reality gets altered wholesale.


125 posted on 03/03/2007 9:39:08 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Quix
"The Bible is still the sole truely true book, to me."

I have also come to view the Bible as a historical document of sorts. Everything from thousands of years ago is still with us today. Everything. God told Jesus to get His rear end down here to straighten things out. Well, it went from zero to 50-50. We still have a pagan religion on the rise called environmentalism. Jesus must confront those gods for the godless. Maybe its our job to help Him out?

126 posted on 03/03/2007 9:52:51 AM PST by BobS
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To: BobS

Certainly we are called to do good and work for the good of Christ's Kingdom--which will end up the ONLY Kingdom.

However, I believe there are lots of issues, contexts, scenarios in these END TIMES which will be God's ball game alone--other than, perhaps, for prayer on our part--the amazing way He allows us to participate in many grand things.

Certainly I wouldn't hesitate to work in behalf of good and God's Kingdom in any way I could. I just think that a lot of things will be taken out of our hands and we'll be given moment instructions by Holy Spirit in the incredible dramas to unfold in the coming 1-25 years or so.


127 posted on 03/03/2007 9:59:30 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: BobS
We have an affirmitave action program for stupid people.

I know, they're called democrat party politicians.

128 posted on 03/03/2007 11:17:20 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Quix

The only place I feel at home is in the San Fernando Mission Church. It is a very old and a very nice place. The Bishop that runs the place says the Mass and in the Sermon, he lays down God's law in black and white clarity. Clarity, not confusion.


129 posted on 03/03/2007 11:55:11 AM PST by BobS
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To: BobS

Blessed to read of it.

Memories . . . San Diego . . .

California is another planet . . . if not another galactic cluster.

Glad there are some sane pockets there!


130 posted on 03/03/2007 1:11:08 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Anti-Bubba182; Quix
Quix takes all UFO whackjobs seriously. = = = = I respect accuracy and truthfulness about me a lot more than wholesale distortion and/or out right falsehoods. There are lots of whackjobs in the field not worth attention--witness the list of mockers on such threads who obviously haven't studied the subject much at all. Emotion, fears, biases and swallowing the government disinformation wholesale do not make for sound assessment perspectives.

See what I mean?
Ever wonder why there are no "crop circles" when it snows?
Because you could see the Pitter Patter tracks of little feet coming from the nearest road.

Remember if all the real UFO's go away today, there will still be as many sightings tomorrow

131 posted on 03/03/2007 1:18:53 PM PST by rock58seg (Conservative American skeptics: The worlds last bastion of sanity.)
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To: rock58seg; All

Lack of research and doing one's homework reigns loudly again! LOL.

1. How is it that the pranksters with boards on ropes manage a very complicated large circle to precise measurements with microwaved plant nodes in 2 hours?

Enquiring minds wish to know, oh great crop circle expert.

2. How is it that the crop circles with the microwaved plant nodes; the increased microfine iron particles and increased magnetism crop up in record time

WITHOUT ANY

tracks by any humans into the whole field in the time during which the circle was made???

Enquiring minds wish to know, oh great crop circle expert.


132 posted on 03/03/2007 1:38:17 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Quix

Still shoveling the same crap, and still not finding a pony. Tsk, Tsk.


133 posted on 03/03/2007 3:18:37 PM PST by rock58seg (Conservative American skeptics: The worlds last bastion of sanity.)
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To: rock58seg

I've found several lifetimes worth of ponies.

Sorry your stable seems bare.


134 posted on 03/03/2007 3:34:01 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: rock58seg

Uhhhhhhhh, BTW,

WHEN you find something I've said that's demonstrably untrue, give a ring.

Until then, I'll assume it's standard naysayer hollow arguments that are on offer . . . As Stanton outlined so well in one of the posts I put up on one of these threads in the last 72 hrs.


135 posted on 03/03/2007 3:36:04 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Quix

Just as I can't be bothered taking the time to prove or disprove your B.S., I'm not into proving negatives. There is no proof you have to prove yours. I have asked for it before, and recieved "Gibberish" about Plant nodes. I can tell you I was absolutely astounded. (Not)


136 posted on 03/03/2007 3:44:06 PM PST by rock58seg (Conservative American skeptics: The worlds last bastion of sanity.)
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To: LibKill

You sir are a LIAR. Under the microscope the pinking shear cuts go BETWEEN the cells, no cell is destroyed by the "blade". This is IMPOSSIBLE today, even with "cutting edge" nanotechnology. You are a LIAR sir!


137 posted on 03/03/2007 3:45:25 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: rock58seg

Being honest about the plant nodes would be more honrable.

I gave you a scientific peer reviewed article in a standard high quality professional journal.

The language and the science were all straightforward by a leader in the field. I'm sorry if such standard scientific lingo was so daunting as to come across as gibberish. I don't know that I can help that problem. In fact, he somewhat replicated the results with his own microwave.

Call that gibberish if you wish.

Most truly scientific folks would disagree.


138 posted on 03/03/2007 3:47:18 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

"He wants the technology. What do I tell him?"

139 posted on 03/03/2007 3:49:39 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel-Robert Frost)
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To: rock58seg

It's clear that over 97% of the people have NOT read any of the five major scientific studies I discuss, and are unaware of the mountains of evidence that support my conclusions. They are also unaware of the scientific data, as opposed to tabloid nonsense. However, it is also clear from the Opinion Polls and from my own experience that indeed most people accept the notion that SOME UFOs are alien spacecraft. The greater the education, the MORE likely an individual is to accept this proposition. In an October 25, 1995, Oxford University Debate on the resolution "Planet Earth is being visited by intelligent extraterrestrial life", the affirmative side, of which I was a part, garnered 60% of Debate Union Member votes on the question. Ninety-two percent of 100,000 people calling during a TV Debate in London on June 27,1997, said Earth has been visited by aliens!

--Stanton Friedman


140 posted on 03/03/2007 3:51:42 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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