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To: ShawTaylor; HAL9000; antiRepublicrat
Webapplications have never claimed they track actual PC sales. No PC maker has ever quoted Webapplications as a source pf PC sales, as far as I know. They do for IDC and Dataquest.

They DON'T track PC sales, and have never claimed they did... they track actual OS and browser USAGE... which is more related to overall Installed base than Market share of sales for any specific period.

Apple USED to have over 25% market share long before Windows was even launched

Apple had a 35% share back in the late 70s... so what. We are looking at what is happening RIGHT NOW.. the last year or two.

Webapplications.com over estimate both Mac and Firefox market share.

You've been challenged to PROVE your assertion and have failed. You are the one spouting claims without providing sources or data to back up your claims. I have done both. Provide a source; put up or shut up.

76 posted on 03/01/2007 9:49:11 AM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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To: Swordmaker
"they track actual OS and browser USAGE.. they track actual OS and browser USAGE.."

Webapplications track PC/Mac other OS users that visit the sites they monitor. That's about it.
No more no less.

"which is more related to overall Installed base than Market share of sales for any specific period."

As far as PC/Mac figures go, the only figures that matter are actual sales, amd actual market share. Its a bit different for browser market share, where site visits matter more.
After all, most computers in the two most populous countries on the planet, India and China (China is the second biggest PC market on the planet), are not even linked to the Internet at all.

"Apple had a 35% share back in the late 70s... so what. We are looking at what is happening RIGHT NOW.. the last year or two."

You would say that, wouldn't you?
If you had over 25% share before, and today you have 2.8% share, is that significant? Yup.
It's like starting as the CEO of a company and ending up as the cleaner.

"You've been challenged to PROVE your assertion and have failed"

I have huh?
Let's look at comparative browser IE/Firefox figures from Websidestory and Webapplications shall we?
Websidestory:

"According to Web analytics outfit WebSideStory, over 25 percent of all visitors to sites in the U.S. now use Internet Explorer 7, coming in second to IE 6, which claims 62 percent.

WebSideStory expects IE 7 to become the dominant browser inside a year, gaining ground as Microsoft continues to roll it out through its Windows Update services.
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All versions of Internet Explorer, grouped together, claim between 85 percent and 90 percent of the worldwide browser market, according to measurements from several analytics firms. "

Websidestory makes IE share at 87% (25%+62%), and on average other web measuring sites give IE between 85 and 90%, but Webapplications still cliam IE share is just 79.09%.

http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=101007W1JNKK

Webapplications:

" Microsoft Internet Explorer 79.09%
Firefox 14.18% "

8% between the 2 figures is a hell of a difference isn't it?

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=0
80 posted on 03/01/2007 10:20:56 AM PST by ShawTaylor
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