[Physicist]

I doubt that the Apostles would have given devoted their lives and, in the end, given their lives, for a lie.

Do you say the same about Leon Trotsky?

[Russ]

I was speaking about the Apostles, not Trotsky. He didn't give his life for anything, it was taken from him by an assassin. There are plenty of examples of people dying for a lie, you're just trying to be too clever. The 12 disciples lived with Jesus, ate with him and traveled with him. If they weren't absolutely convinced as to who he was and what he did they would have never spent the rest of their lives in hardship, deprivation and, finally, martyrdom for Him. But, you believe what you want. We will eventually all find out who was right.