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To: Ultra Sonic 007; rodomila; All; Jim Robinson; PhiKapMom; areafiftyone; Fierce Allegiance; 230FMJ; ..

Call it fantasy all you want. The REAL FANTASY is thinking that rock ribbed conseravtives, not just social conservatives, are going to fall in line behind such a liberal candidate as Rudy.

Is support for the 2nd Amendment a "social conservative" position, or a constitutional conservative position? Do you think members of the NRA and GOA are going to support Rudy. He is PATHETIC when it comes to the 2nd Amendment.

Is flatly rejecting the socialist agenda called "global warming" a social conservative position, or a THINKING conservative position? Rudy just admonished ALgore for not going after the supposed perps of global warming in his film, An Inconvenient Truth. The fact that Rudy was stupid enough to sit thru that garbage, much less believe it should disqualify him from the GOP nomination, though it could help him get the dem nomination.

Is being opposed to partial birth abortion, better known as infantacide, strictly the domain of social conservatives? Hell frickin NO. Even most dems understand when they see a child being extracted and having its brains vacuumed out is cold blooded murder. Yet, Rudy opposed the Presidents push to enact the ban on this abomination.

Is supporting the Bush tax cuts as social conservative position, or a fairly typical republican position? Well, Rudy was opposed, thinking them irresponsible. I see he changed his tune since, but the man who shows weak knees when it mattered and when the tax cuts passing congress was still up in the air.

Is preferring Pataki for NY Governor over that lying communist Mario Cuomo a social conservative position, or a position that even liberal republicans preferred. Yet, the Mouth that roared, Guiliani, supported the communist.

Is being an adamant foe of Slick Willie a social conservative position, or a position ALL republicans should adhere to? Well, old Rudy got stars in his eyes around Slickster and even has stated that his policies are very similar to the socialist from Arkansas.

I don't even need to go into the other areas where strictly social conservatives would take issue with this liberal NY Mayor.

Does all of this mean that Rudy did not do some good things as mayor of NY. No. Nor does it mean I hate the guy. But waht it does mean is that his ascension WILL RIP THE PARTY APART. The Gop cannot afford to veer any farther left or it will lose the most conservative 1/3 of the party for good.


161 posted on 02/15/2007 5:37:04 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

Rudy Giuliani "be everything to everybody" is reminiscent of 1980 when a once-popular John Anderson entered the race for President as a third party candidate. The more Anderson campaigned, the more he pandered. When he came to Silicon Valley, instead of meeting with business people and technology people, he visited the Alviso Slough to talk about pollution. No one was came. Anderson managed to lose most of his potential voters by not taking a stand on anything. By the time the election rolled around, the conservative Ronald Reagan was dominant, and Anderson was nothing but a footnote.


165 posted on 02/15/2007 5:46:36 AM PST by TommyDale (Who do you trust? An ex-mayor? Or the ranking member of the House Committee on Armed Services?)
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To: pissant
But waht it does mean is that his ascension WILL RIP THE PARTY APART.

A party that nominates pro-death presidential candidates deserves to die.

166 posted on 02/15/2007 5:46:46 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: pissant

BTTT. ....good post, pissant.


208 posted on 02/15/2007 7:19:30 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: pissant
Great statement of facts.

Thank you.
252 posted on 02/15/2007 8:20:46 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: pissant

Well said.


255 posted on 02/15/2007 8:26:30 AM PST by Vor Lady (Welcome to grandchild #5: Lenora Lucille, 8lbs 11oz. Happy Birthday!)
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To: pissant

Duncan Hunter is the man!


267 posted on 02/15/2007 9:24:16 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: pissant

Great post! Thank you for a great summary.


290 posted on 02/15/2007 11:42:08 AM PST by GraceCoolidge
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To: pissant
"But waht it does mean is that his ascension WILL RIP THE PARTY APART. The Gop cannot afford to veer any farther left or it will lose the most conservative 1/3 of the party for good."

The only situation that would cause me to vote for Rudy is if the only choice is Rudy or the former First Bitch.

351 posted on 02/15/2007 4:24:08 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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Agreed with every word you said BUMP!


367 posted on 02/16/2007 9:40:38 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (When personal character isn't relevant to voters or party leaders, Foley happens.)
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To: pissant
. But waht it does mean is that his ascension WILL RIP THE PARTY APART. The Gop cannot afford to veer any farther left or it will lose the most conservative 1/3 of the party for good.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Rudy is a political acident waiting to happen. He left his party affiliation blank in his filing with the Electoral Commission. That means he will run as an independant if he does not get on the PUbbie Ticket, thereby removing the NYC voters from the Pubbie formula.

RUDY MEANS TO SPLIT THE PARTY. Its a threat. So that alone is enough for me to understand that he would make a poor president. Mayoral politics will not work on a national level and we do not need a mayor of the United States.

368 posted on 02/17/2007 5:21:16 PM PST by Candor7 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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