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Boeing offers India advanced AESA radar with SuperHornet
India Abroad News Service ^ | Feb 8, 2007

Posted on 02/08/2007 7:57:08 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 02/08/2007 7:57:10 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Is this a good idea...giving them the advanced radar ???


2 posted on 02/08/2007 8:01:17 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

The French and the Russians already have the tech and are also bidding their airplanes with AESA sets.


3 posted on 02/08/2007 8:02:31 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: EagleUSA

If im not mistaken,the offered radar (APG-79) will be sold to Australia when 24 SuperHornets are leased to them,which is a much smaller deal than this Indian one,if Boeing does win it.THe Indian AF has pretty much insisted on getting AESA radars with whatever platforms they buy-If the Americans don't sell,Boeing or LM can't win.The Euroweenies,Russia or even Israel stand to gain as they don't have such pretensions.AESA radars have been sold to the UAE for it's F-16 Block 60s & Singapore for it's F-15Gs.


4 posted on 02/08/2007 8:04:47 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: EagleUSA

Won't matter, it will see F-22's as background noise. Until too late.


5 posted on 02/08/2007 8:06:54 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Boeing has a large presence at Aero India where, apart from the F-18, it is also showcasing the C-17 heavy-lift transport, the C130J Super Hercules

Boeing is showcasing the C-130? Is Boeing promoting MiGs and Rafaels as well? Or does the writer not know what he is talking about.

6 posted on 02/08/2007 8:14:02 PM PST by PAR35
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To: sukhoi-30mki

If I recall correctly, you are very knowledgeable on the subject. If it were up to you, which plane would you pick and why?


7 posted on 02/08/2007 8:29:17 PM PST by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Dont the Canadians also make an F-18 variant?


8 posted on 02/08/2007 8:34:07 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (The Coldest Blood Runs through my veins..you know my name..)
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To: PAR35
Yeah, hard to believe Boeing would be pushing the C-130 as that's made by its main competitor, LM.

Hard to say which of the candidate airframes India might want to choose, since several of them serve the various tasks differently, and India's existing capability (esp. Su-30 and Jaguar) is pretty broad. The F/A-18E/F is much more a striker than an air superiority ("dominance" in the latest jargon) system. If they want air to air dominance, get the latest block F-16. The Jaguars are great strikers. The main attraction of the F-18 series is its "jack of all trades" flexibility, not exceptional performance in any area other than strike/close support. With India already operating and/or building a wide assortment of aircraft, it's hard to see that this flexibility from one airframe gains them a lot.

For what it's worth, if they're looking for a straight alternative to the F/A-18E/F, the closest thing on the market is the Rafael. But I can't see India going that direction. France is an unreliable ally. The US is solid and India knows it.
9 posted on 02/08/2007 9:01:59 PM PST by omnivore
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To: Armedanddangerous

Many countries including Canada and Switzerland, and I believe Australia, operate F/A-18's. But they haven't done co-production, just straight purchase.


10 posted on 02/08/2007 9:05:03 PM PST by omnivore
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To: Armedanddangerous

Canada is the largest export user of the Hornet with over 120 odd 'CF-18' variants.The Hornet has never been license production,if im not mistaken .


11 posted on 02/08/2007 11:06:31 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: omnivore; Sergio

Really difficult to pick one airframe out of the many on offer for both operational & political factors.The political factor has become magnified over the past 2 years.In 2001,people would have scoffed if anyone said India would purchased an aircraft other than the French Mirage-2005 with only the Mig-29M for distant competition.Now the Mirage-2005 is all but dead & the American airframes & new Russian Mig-35 seem to big contenders.

A lot of people say that this deal will be enhanced to provide 180 odd aircraft so that 2 aircraft can be selected.It makes sense to buy an American jet so that GWB can be been to be vindicated for the trust he seems to have put into relations with India with the nuclear deal & all.The Russians would need their pound of flesh as well but selecting the Mig-35 would also cause the least logistical problems given that India already uses the Mig-29s.

About France being an unreliable ally & the US solid,well India's experiences suggest the opposite.The US still sells fighters & heavy duty stuff to Pakistan(which can't buy French stuff due the cost!!!).The French have been India's biggest arms suppliers outside of Russia & Israel & are rather liberal on technology & industrial partnerships.But my uneducated guess is that the European offerings will not have much of a chance for this contract as they are not really making a big pitch & the Indian defense budget is big enough to accomodate them elsewhere!!


12 posted on 02/08/2007 11:15:01 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: PAR35

Indian "defense" journalists-the less said about their (in)competence,the better.


13 posted on 02/08/2007 11:16:26 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Uncle Sam wont accept other Indian or European customizations ala F-18 MKI whereas the russians are more than willing to go the distance. That makes a big difference to my mind.


14 posted on 02/09/2007 12:07:08 AM PST by Arjun (Skepticism is good. It keeps you alive.)
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They certainly are not flexible,but we can't be sure because they may be willing to yield to demands just to get a foothold in the Indian market.That being said,the French & the Russians will readily go along given that they desperately need to sell their wares.


15 posted on 02/09/2007 12:23:37 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Armedanddangerous

The canadian F-18 isnt a super hornet and doesnt have AESA.


16 posted on 02/09/2007 4:06:52 AM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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Russia is not a good ally. Sure they sell with no strings attached because the have no moral compass, and want a Russia/Chinese alliance to dominate world affairs at any cost.


17 posted on 02/09/2007 4:08:28 AM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: EagleUSA

It's basically the same radar we sold to the United Arab Emirates in their F-16s.


18 posted on 02/09/2007 7:40:26 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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Nope,it's likely to be the Raytheon APG-79,being fitted to Block-2 SuperHornets of the USN.


19 posted on 02/09/2007 8:42:53 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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Pentagon plans to offer radar to India


http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/dec212005/state20341720051220.asp


20 posted on 02/09/2007 8:43:58 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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