[GATOR NAVY]

At High Noon, the sun will be at its highest point and no matter how bad the cloud cover is, the sun will ALWAYS be visible at the noon hour, briefly perhaps, slightly dimmed by clouds, but still with enough resolution to make a sighting. Ask a sailor.

Okay, I was a sailor. In fact, my job was navigation. Since you asked, I'll tell you. You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Paisan]

OK, change that to ALMOST always. If, as you claim, I don't know what I'm talking about, then the counter-claim is that the sun is NEVER visible during full overcast.
I will not debate this with you. Too many years sailing out of Boston Harbor, in weather fair and foul, have taught me otherwise.