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Government admits lying about jailed border agents (DHS fesses up - Rep. Poe ticked!)
World Net Daily ^ | February 6, 2007 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 02/06/2007 6:18:29 PM PST by calcowgirl

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To: taxed2death

Shows one good reason why creating one more layer of government with more agencies reporting through layers to that agency is and was a very bad idea.


141 posted on 02/06/2007 7:08:08 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

"Perhaps this will give GWB an excuse to release them pending investigation of the whole affair.
If the Grand Jury has been misled by faulty information, and the Indictment be null and void? Would this lead to a full pardon?"

I would hope so! I also hope that Tony Snow is taking notice of this and letting President Bush know he needs to pardon them right away and fire the DHS people responsible for the "total misinformation"!



142 posted on 02/06/2007 7:08:35 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: marron
you have to ask who in their right minds would want to become a Border Patrol agent now?

No one. But then, that's the idea, isn't it?

143 posted on 02/06/2007 7:08:43 PM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: calcowgirl

From the article, "Andy Ramirez, who has been involved with the case as chairman of Friends of the Border Patrol, told WND the DHS's actions "represent obstruction of justice, and they should be held in contempt of Congress, and, if possible, prosecuted to the full extent of the law."


"This admission today is yet more proof of how they are willing to distort the facts, as I have charged all along, in order to ensure a conviction," he said."

Is Andy Ramirez the same person that people here were accusing of possibly being in cahoots with his buddy, the illegal Mexican/drug runner? That name sounds familier to me.



144 posted on 02/06/2007 7:09:27 PM PST by Chena
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To: Enterprise

IF he finds out. We don't know what he is and has been told about this or what records they gave him to review and what records they held back.


145 posted on 02/06/2007 7:09:41 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: StolarStorm
Mark Rich gets a pardon by Clinton yet Bush lets these heros sit in prison.

Original Bush pardon thread from 12/22/06:

Bush pardons 16, commutes sentence in drug case

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush issued 16 pardons Thursday and commuted the ... With this batch, Bush has issued 113 pardons and commuted three sentences ...

146 posted on 02/06/2007 7:10:20 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: TheeOhioInfidel

I hope you will be proved wrong. In my heart, I don't believe you will be.


147 posted on 02/06/2007 7:10:39 PM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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To: truthkeeper

Just one more job Americans won't do.


148 posted on 02/06/2007 7:10:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Chena; muawiyah

I imagine what muawiyah is referring to is the fact he was asleep in his cell when he was attacked Saturday evening. When it's lights-out the cells are supposed to be locked down and the only person in the cell with you is the other prisoner.... someone allowed these people into this cell on this evening to beat the heck out of Ramos and that someone had to have a key.


149 posted on 02/06/2007 7:11:39 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: CAluvdubya

BTW, how are the tens of dozens of illegals camped out down the way from you doing.

Those in flyover states don't have a clue and would have a fit if they had to put up with tens of dozens of illegals camped in their neighborhood with all their trash, human crap, etc.


150 posted on 02/06/2007 7:12:02 PM PST by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I have a helpful suggestion for President Bush. If he's not going to release them, at least send in some Federal Marshalls to protect them because no one else will!


151 posted on 02/06/2007 7:12:10 PM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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To: calcowgirl
I've had to order transcripts before. You're exactly right. It's a time-consuming process, where the reporter (usually in nights after other trials) transcribes and proofreads his official transcript.

It is not yet an irregularity that the transcript is not yet available. Not yet.

152 posted on 02/06/2007 7:12:30 PM PST by jude24
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To: calcowgirl

This whole case has been a total crock. These agents need to be pardoned right away. I don't know what is taking. Is the White House afraid they may offend Mexico and ruin cozy relations? Whatever the case, free Ramos and Compean.


153 posted on 02/06/2007 7:12:33 PM PST by NapkinUser (Free Ramos and Compean! Disbarment for the Nifong-wannabe Johnny Sutton.)
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To: Enterprise

You and I agree with that for sure... but will never happen since he is such a good friend of the POTUS and Sutton the Prosecutor is a good friend of Gonzalez'


154 posted on 02/06/2007 7:12:58 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I think Kilby introduced a resolution calling for a pardon recently? Past week maybe.


155 posted on 02/06/2007 7:13:08 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Arizona Carolyn; SoCalPol
He.... we're only getting 3,000 a day into Arizona now (thanks to the NG on the border /s) how many are coming into California these days?

I think we had that by noon today! LOL

SoCal will know the actual numbers....Yoo-Hoo

156 posted on 02/06/2007 7:14:09 PM PST by CAluvdubya (DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: Enterprise

Uhh what the heck does Congress have to do with their appeals process in I think the 5th circuit???? Hmmm about as much as what the price of tea in China is right now. If you're for freeing two convicted felons while they are appealing then you'd have to empty out half of the prisons to accommodate all of the other convicted felons also in some process of their appeals process. I've been laughing at some of these posts, I've read that he was beaten almost to death, to he has a minor cut and some bruises..... big difference there. Nobody knows why he wasn't in segregated housing, maybe he declined it based upon you are locked up in your cell with no contact for 23 out of every 24 hours. No TV, no nothing. He might have opted to take his chances in gen pop instead of going insane in the SHU.


157 posted on 02/06/2007 7:14:34 PM PST by rednesss
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I think it's time you give it up. You've been running down the cause of these poor agents in other threads, too. Now we know that DHS lied to Congress, and we already knew that a DHS agent, working closely with a Mexican organized crime mule (Aldrete-Davila), provided the instigation for the entire prosecution. We were lied to that Ramos & Compean were "crooked cops," when the crooks are clearly in the DHS and Justice Dept.


158 posted on 02/06/2007 7:15:36 PM PST by hellbender
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To: CharlesWayneCT

What I read before made it sound like he was severely beaten Now it's down to minor cuts and bruises? Not that I approve of that either, but still.....has FR become the biggest gossip column online? LOL


159 posted on 02/06/2007 7:15:44 PM PST by Chena
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To: calcowgirl

Wow, the Nifong way of prosecuting seems to be taking hold.


160 posted on 02/06/2007 7:18:22 PM PST by takeemout (God Bless Jesse Helms!)
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