Posted on 02/05/2007 8:12:42 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
This is a new feature in Beryl 0.2.0 and it simply looks wayyyy wicked! This is the stuff that makes OS X and Vista look dated.
(Excerpt) Read more at lunapark6.com ...
Thanks
Usually on boot up the 'grub' screen just whizzes by.
I rebooted and started pressing F3 and got the resolution screen.
Changed it to 800x600. Much larger.
Of course when I put the comp to bed tonight all will be lost.
If the latter is the case, you might pick yellow dog software. It is a linux distro for Macs. distrowatch.com may have some other mac versions of linux.
Glad it worked for you. Get yourself a 10 dollar drive off ebay and install Mepis as dual boot, and the settings will stay. [grin]
After messing with Mepis some last night and going to some sites I frequent, ugh.
The fonts rendered were almost impossible to read.
Why don't they offer Times Roman as a font???
I'm going to mess with it a little more before I make a decision but as of now it's a 'no go'.
Wish I liked it as I would love to get away from MS.
If you are "used to" fonts in windows, then just copy all the ones you have:
Open up the C:\Windows\Fonts directory and copy everything in it. To do that, double-click on the My Computer icon on your desktop, then on Local Disk (C:), then the Windows folder, then the Fonts folder. Click through any warnings about messing with them.
Back them up to a CD, a network folder, or a usb drive. This is a GOOD thing to do if you ditch linux and never use anything but Windows, but it is even better if you use another OS. Windows may [ahem] "crash" and then you would lose your fonts. This way you will have them even if you stick with MS.
To transfer the fonts, Insert your font backup source, or login to the network. Click on the K menu (the menu button in the lower left corner), then click on Control Center.
When the Control Center window comes up, click on the System Administration option in the list in the left pane. On most systems, System Administration is the last option. This will bring up a submenu; select Font Installer. The right pane will change to the font installation utility. Click the Administrator Mode button, then type in your root password when prompted. (for the cd, this is "root," but I have never tried this in cd mode. I would think it would dump them into a virtual file on the hard drive, but I don't know)
Click on the Add Fonts button. A file dialogue will appear; in it, navigate to your font sourc. Once you're in the directory with all of your font files, press ctrl-a to select all of them, then click the Open button. It may take a few minutes for all of the files to load. Once the process is finished, close the Control Center.
When you log in again, you can use the same fonts u used in windows.
Let me say again that I agree with u about the horrid font selection in Mepis. Warren has been notified that we all hate it. I think it is just what happens when you are a distro god. You have to punish the masses sometimes [grin]
Thanks for the info.
I'll give it a try later.
Hanging crown moulding today.
(may hang myself after this ordeal. g)
I don't want to change. It is like you said I just want to see what all the fuss is about with Linux.
Speaking of hanging crown moulding..... 
GOT to be the hardest job in the world, at least for a jackleg like me. Measure three times, cut once, swear profusely, have your wife threaten to call in a trim carpenter, get ego involved, ruin the whole experience by then getting furious with wife...... my strategy on it, anyway. Hope your luck is better than mine.
Welcome to the fold!
It's alot easier than you were led to believe, isn't it?
^^^^^^^^^^^Mac OS X uses a 3-D imaging system called "OpenGL"^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm aware of the system called "opengl", it's an "API" that is used not just on "macos", but also "linux".
^^^^^^^^for 100% of the Quartz Extreme screen compositing engine, but it's more of a 2-D paradigm on the screen.^^^^^^^^
Do you have a link on that?
^^^^^^^^^^^But Apple is not going to display windows floating in space like Beryl.^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That wasn't my point in asking the question.
They don't have to display windows like Beryl or for that matter Aero for it to be a full 3d interface.
^^^^^^^^^No. It's every bit as boring as the Windows desktop, only more annoying.^^^^^^^^^^
I'm not sure you understood the question either.
^^^^^^^^^^^Beryl's a lot of fun to use and blows the current Vista and OSX desktops away.^^^^^^^^^^^
I agree. And not just from an eye candy perspective either.
There's not much need for actually having 4 monitors on your desk. Just flip your desktop to the next side of the cube. It's very useful.
I answered the question and added my opinion. Although, I half think he was being sarcastic.
The OpenGL implementation on Mac OS X is the real thing, officially licensed from Silicon Graphics. My understanding is that most Linux distributions use Mesa 3D instead.
Do you have a link on that?
Wikipedia - Quartz Compositor
^^^^^^^^^^^The OpenGL implementation on Mac OS X is the real thing, officially licensed from Silicon Graphics. My understanding is that most Linux distributions use Mesa 3D instead.^^^^^^^^^^^
The only major difference is the official licence AFAIK. That's like saying I'm not using .net, I'm using mono. The difference is negligble, besides the licence.(well, the platform too)
^^^^^^^Quartz Compositor^^^^^^^^^^^
Ahh, Good answer. Compositor is the word that had slipped my mind.
You answered a long ago question(not posed to you, a general/lingering question) I'd yet to have answered. The timeline.
This is pretty much what XGL(and Aero, Beryl, etc) are. Apple was the first by a few months.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xgl
(XGL's)Competitors
My understanding is that Mesa 3D attempts to mimic OpenGL's API - but they are totally separate products, with completely different source code base, and the real OpenGL is still regarded as the better system in the computer graphics industry.
So as of 10.4 it's been a full 3d desktop. Though it's currently disabled by default. Bummer.
According to the article - "Starting with Mac OS X v10.2, Quartz Compositor was extended by Quartz Extreme, which uses OpenGL to render screen displays faster by presenting them as textures within a 3D OpenGL context. This permits faster compositing of screen images using 3D hardware acceleration."
The emerging Quartz 2D Extreme will use the GPU to execute more drawing commands at an earlier stage in the pipeline, but the point is - the Mac screen and windows have been fully composited with the OpenGL 3D facilities since 2002.
^^^^^^^^^My understanding is that Mesa 3D attempts to mimic OpenGL's API^^^^^^^^^^
That's a good way to put it.
^^^^^^^^^the real OpenGL is still regarded as the better system in the computer graphics industry.^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm sure an argument could be made.
^^^^^^^^^but the point is - the Mac screen and windows have been fully composited with the OpenGL 3D facilities since 2002.^^^^^^^^^^^
It's not a full 3d environment though. What you quoted is exactly what I mean.
^^^^^^^^^^Quartz Extreme, which uses OpenGL to render screen displays faster by presenting them as textures within a 3D OpenGL context.^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's exactly what the *nix based technologies do. what XP and mac had previous(in 2002) is technically inferior. Previous to quarts extreme, OGL was not used to render screen displays by presenting them as textures within a 3d OGL context.
It's 3d, but it wasn't full 3d until 05/06. It's not just about putting it earlier in the pipeline, it's about passing off 2d textures as a 3d one and letting the 3d chip do it's magic.
That's what Quartz Extreme has been doing since Mac OS X 10.2 shipped in 2002. Each offscreen window buffer is essentially an OpenGL texture map. OpenGL composites each of those buffers to the output device (e.g. the screen or a print buffer), with effects like translucence, shadow-casting, etc.
The Quartz environment is far more comprehensive than Beryl's relatively primitive attempt to do a superficial imitation of the Mac. Beryl faces too many technical, legal and social obstacles to attain the consistently high level of quality that Macs have delivered for several years.
Linux is a great platform for servers, but due to the unfortunate state of chaos in the Linux developers community, it will not become the best desktop computer in the foreseeable future. If you want the superior graphical user experience for a desktop and portable computers, get a Mac.
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