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Microsoft tried to muck with anti-Linux ‘facts’
ZDnet ^ | February 2nd | Mary Jo Foley

Posted on 02/02/2007 4:07:36 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

According to an e-mail message, dated November 1, 2002, that has been entered as evidence in the Iowa consumer antitrust case against Microsoft, some Microsoft executives favored hiding the fact that Microsoft paid International Data Corp. (IDC) for one of the total-cost-of-ownership studies comparing Windows and Linux that the firm conducted at Microsoft's request. (It looks like fear of being outed triumphed, and Microsoft ultimately decided to admit its role in commissioning the IDC TCO and subsequent anti-Linux studies.)

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: fud; getthefacts; linux; microsoft
I'm not surprised. Microsoft hasn't always played nice. Any Apple fan can vouch for that.

I don't see how anybody could be surprised. Linux computers take less work to keep up and running. As a former admin, I can personally vouch for that. 1 admin can administer more *nix boxes. Doze as well as other M$ just requires too much patching and upkeep on a regular basis due to abnormal finickiness.

1 posted on 02/02/2007 4:07:40 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Linux take less to keep running... yeah right. ninety percent of computer users probably couldnt even install it and get the printer working. sure if u are a nerd its probably better... but not for anyone else.


2 posted on 02/02/2007 6:03:36 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

DOS ain't done
'til Lotus won't run.


3 posted on 02/02/2007 6:04:30 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: Rodney King

I say "keep running" and you say "get running"

I'm at a loss here.


4 posted on 02/02/2007 6:07:28 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

ok... but still, how can you keep something running if you cant get it running in the first place? besides, i have no trouble keeping any XP computers running.


5 posted on 02/02/2007 6:27:27 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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6 posted on 02/02/2007 8:03:51 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Rodney King

I just installed Fedora Core 6 on a laptop this afternoon. Took an hour from start to finish, 1 reboot, and I was up. No more difficult than Windows.


7 posted on 02/02/2007 8:06:04 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Rodney King

"keep running"

i think you missed two key words.

after being tired of ALWAYS having to fix my wifes computer i changed her over to pclinuxos and she hasn't screwed anything up in over a year.

linux has saved our marriage.(smiles)


8 posted on 02/02/2007 8:09:54 PM PST by postaldave (republicans need spending rehab before trying to control congress again.)
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To: Rodney King

"something running if you cant get it running"

there is NO difference in installing a modern distro then installing a fresh copy of XP.

plus with liveCDs you can try it out first and make sure everything is going to work first. try that with XP.


9 posted on 02/02/2007 8:14:08 PM PST by postaldave (republicans need spending rehab before trying to control congress again.)
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there is NO difference in installing a modern distro then installing a fresh copy of XP.

ROTFLMAO. Yeah, unless you wanna do something crazy like connect to a network. I spent hours - about 10 of 'em - trying to get five different Linux builds to connect to a home Wi-fi network, with no success. And I'm kind of a geek. Try to get the average user to ''compile binaries'' or whatever is needed.

Meanwhile, the XP boxes at my office require exactly zero hours of maintenance time. Every few months I run an antispyware program on them for fun, but in five years I have yet to find any problems.

I like the idea of Linux, but it's about 15 years behind Windows in terms of ease of use.

10 posted on 02/02/2007 9:23:59 PM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: Rodney King

RK--take a look at Ubuntu with a KDE. It might cause you to revise your statement.


11 posted on 02/03/2007 6:06:41 AM PST by Clara Lou (John Kerry is scum. Feingold isn't much better. Democrats-pphhttt!)
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To: Rodney King
ninety percent of computer users probably couldnt even install it and get the printer working. sure if u are a nerd its probably better... but not for anyone else.

I use Novell's SUSE Linux. I am part of the ninety percent who are not computer nerds. I can easily and painlessly install printers, wireless LAN cards, video cards and any other peripheral.

Linux has come a long way in the past few years.

12 posted on 02/03/2007 6:10:47 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: Clara Lou
I think Ubuntu is fine if you buy into founder Mark Shuttleworth's anarcho-marxist philosophies. Shuttleworth is doing everything he can to undermine and impede the acceptance of linux as a business tool for profit.

I gave up on Shuttleworth's intellectually insipid and anti-capitalist gruel when I graduated from college.

13 posted on 02/03/2007 6:23:49 AM PST by JCEccles
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Why do I have to "buy into" Shuttleworth's philosophies to use Ubuntu? If I use Vista, then I really do have to buy into Bill Gates's philosophy of Microsoft's ownership and control of my personal computer--although I paid for it so it seems like my property.
14 posted on 02/03/2007 6:29:40 AM PST by Clara Lou (John Kerry is scum. Feingold isn't much better. Democrats-pphhttt!)
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To: JCEccles

Yeah...I've always gotten some "pro-globalism" vibes from Shuttleworth.


15 posted on 02/03/2007 6:27:08 PM PST by bigdcaldavis ("I'm not some candy-assed white liberal looking to turn you into better citizens." - Martin Querns)
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To: Clara Lou

Agreed. Just because you use a person's product does not necessarily mean you agree with their philosophy.

For example...I disagree with Gates' pro-UN philosophy, and I still use Windows 2000 SP4. Likewise, I don't agree with Shuttleworth's pro-globalism philosophy (and no, it has nothing to do with the allged conspiracy theories of Shuttleworth and Google collaborating on Goobuntu and/or of Google using embedded webcams and microphones to spy on its users), but I really like Ubuntu (I have 6.10). Of course, I really like Xandros, and I will probably try to get Xandros 4.1 Professional in the near future. I'm a happy owner of Xandros 3.0.3 Business Edition.


16 posted on 02/03/2007 6:32:28 PM PST by bigdcaldavis ("I'm not some candy-assed white liberal looking to turn you into better citizens." - Martin Querns)
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To: Rodney King

You've obviously never tried to install a newer distro.

They're all graphical during install and use. Just point and click.

Fedora, Suse, Ubuntu, and lots of others.


17 posted on 02/04/2007 5:28:55 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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