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Vista is 'more secure' says Gates
BBC ^ | Tuesday, 30 January 2007, 15:33 GMT | BBC Staff

Posted on 01/30/2007 1:08:55 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Still happily running Win2k. And with TClock3, its taskbar can look like Vista's, too (or any other WindowBlinds skin)

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?s=&showtopic=85819&view=findpost&p=589302


41 posted on 01/30/2007 1:53:07 PM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: wastedyears

i may have no choice but to buy a new pee-cee, but then again, i should be able to toast the drive and install Linux on there...

Vista's a pile of crap--pure and simple.


42 posted on 01/30/2007 1:53:17 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: goldstategop

The upside is all of the hackers will be concentrating on Vista and will leave my XP alone!


43 posted on 01/30/2007 1:56:04 PM PST by jdsteel ('nuff said (old Marvel Comics reference....))
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To: rzeznikj at stout
I think Dell.... for one....will ship you a new PC without OS and not include the cost of windows,,,,

Just posting this for those that happen by .....

Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor

44 posted on 01/30/2007 1:57:04 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sun Solaris x86 is now free, by the way.


45 posted on 01/30/2007 1:59:28 PM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I'm reminded of two other "highly secure" gizmos released recently.

HD-DVD security was cracked in 8 days.
Blu-Ray security was cracked in 1 day.

Just FWIW.


46 posted on 01/30/2007 2:00:34 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: JohnSheppard

Baghdad Bob was sincere, at least. . .


47 posted on 01/30/2007 2:02:50 PM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

will have to check it out...

otoh, $$$ isn't something i have a lot of right now (thanks to rising tuition) 8^)


48 posted on 01/30/2007 2:08:18 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"For anybody worried about safety, whether it is phishing or malware or parental control type issues, Vista brings that to a whole new level of capability," he added.

Who watches the watchman? Who protects us from the "I'll delete any program that did not pay tribute to MS, nor bribes to the RIAA, nor graft to Content Lobbyists".

Hey Gates-

Guess what's going on at this very moment on the other desk? I am downloading and installing Debian Linux on another spare machine. I see the router flicking like a Christmas Tree, and Debian pours in at a megabaud, courtesy of a neat website I read about on here this morning.

it's been real.

The more I read about Vista, the more I resolutely urge you to BITE ME. Take your spyware and bribeware and --deleted---.

I have been an MS customer since DOS, and reading about Vista's Dirty Secrets has alienated me beyond any sympathy. One such article is HERE

A SAINT would be furious reading this.

49 posted on 01/30/2007 2:10:56 PM PST by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
There is also a stripped down version of the OS, Vista Starter, which is aimed at customers in developing countries

Vista Starter

50 posted on 01/30/2007 2:11:07 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Celebrate Monocacy!)
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To: Gorzaloon
Oh please, a site called Goodbye Microsoft?

Do you also like chic flicks, walks in the rain with your partner and shih-tzus?

If you want to proclaim your independence from MS something a little more authoritative would be better.

51 posted on 01/30/2007 2:13:56 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Celebrate Monocacy!)
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To: VeniVidiVici
If you stole that palm tree graphic Vista will shake your etch-a-sketch and call the Graphics Police, you know.

But you can settle out of court by sending a check for $3,000 to the RIAA, etc.

Or leave cash in a plain brown bag by the pine tree tonight, for *ahem* Administrative Privileges. Wink wink

52 posted on 01/30/2007 2:16:40 PM PST by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
From India discussions about price:

Vista is here, minus the price tag!

53 posted on 01/30/2007 2:21:37 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Gorzaloon

LOL!


54 posted on 01/30/2007 2:22:20 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Celebrate Monocacy!)
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To: Jaxter

I was thinking the same thing, I have seen XP drag on systems with similar spec to their quotes. Im sure vista will load and start up but hevaen help you if you need to do anything else..


55 posted on 01/30/2007 2:23:19 PM PST by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

can we see the source code to check it ourselves please?


56 posted on 01/30/2007 2:23:25 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: VeniVidiVici
If you want to proclaim your independence from MS something a little more authoritative would be better.

?? What could possibly be more authoritative than a site offering a free alternative to try?

Has it ocurred to anyone that possibly MS has declared ITS independence from, or contempt for, many of its loyal users?

In a few minutes I will be test driving Debian Linux, to compare it to Red Hat and SuSE on the other "converted" machines.

Three down, five to go.

57 posted on 01/30/2007 2:27:18 PM PST by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"I think Dell.... for one....will ship you a new PC without OS and not include the cost of windows,,,,"

Correct, I ordered a nice Dell a few months back, loaded MEPIS (linux) and never looked back. It took all of about 20 minutes to install, most of that time was spent formatting (automatically) the HDD for MEPIS. It found all my hardware and configed it with no problem at all.


I'm running Windoze / MEPIS on this pooter right now using "dual boot" option.


58 posted on 01/30/2007 2:30:10 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Moose4
It'll be secure from everybody but Microsoft.

Which means that it is secure from no one. Backdoors have a bad habit of getting found by people who weren't supposed to know that they were there.

59 posted on 01/30/2007 2:31:02 PM PST by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: capt. norm
they just continue to get worse with each release.

I am no Microsoft fan (Gentoo is my system of choice), but I do not think that that is an entirely fair assessment. They have been getting better over time. 95 was better than DoDOS (dark old DOS), 98 was better than 95, and XP was better than 98. The only real hickups have been ME and the upcoming Vista. They have, however, been getting more and more invasive as time goes on. I don't mind entering a key all that much, but I hate anything that requires a phone home to work. I just don't have that level of trust in any company, but especially not Microsoft.

60 posted on 01/30/2007 2:36:27 PM PST by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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