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Did "24" Go Too Far?
Townhall ^ | 1/22/07 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 01/22/2007 1:30:58 PM PST by presidio9

When the ABCNews.com column assignment arrived mid-morning --"Is the TV show "24" going too far by depicting a nuclear attack in Los Angeles in its opening episode?"-- the drama went out of tonight's two-hour program. Or so I thought. As zero hour approached, I found myself assuming that the program really wouldn't actually depict a nuclear detonation near Los Angeles. I noted as the show unfolded that the script had the doomsday scenario putting the casualties of such an event at somewhere north of a hundred thousand, a remarkably low estimate, and that no mention was made of the catastrophic impact of radiation sickness or the second level but still devastating impact to surrounding infrastructure, the immediate refugee problem, or the collapse of the national economy. Given that the consequences of such a blast, I found myself doubting that the program would risk absurdity by depicting a post-nuclear attack America far more simple than anyone has a right to conceive.

But blow the nuke, the writers did, and apparently there are four more where that came from. How Jack and gang deals with the aftermath remains to be seen --martial law at least from Bakersfield to San Diego, and from the Pacific to Vegas, perhaps, and a Dow 1200? -- But the question put to me remains: Did the program "go too far?"

Given that there are easily, oh, 10 million people in the world who would stand up and cheer at the real version of Monday night's fictionalized attack, and at least a few tens of thousands trying hard to do a deed of at least proportionate scale given the weaponry available, it is silly to argue that "it" couldn't possibly happen. Of course it could happen. Eventually another nuke will go off, and it is not likely to be the obvious action of a state actor. So what is the "too far" in the question supposed to mean? It can only be that "24" is engaged in fear-mongering, and that is as stupid a charge as can be made.

Would the BBC have been going "too far" if in 1937 it had broadcast a radio drama depicting life in a Hitler-authorized death camp where hundreds of thousands of Jews were being executed in gas chambers, one of a string of such camps springing up across Europe?

Would a Paris newspaper have been going "too far" if it had run a short story in 1913 supposing trench warfare that would claim millions of casualties?

Had PBS run a drama proposing a Communist massacre of millions of Cambodians in 1973 or a Rawandan genocide of more than a half million Tutsis twenty years later, would those prophecies have been going "too far?"

The problem of the last century was a failure in the imagining of evil, a failure which was in some ways evil's accomplice. "It can't happen" often masked the very unfolding of the too-awful-to-occur event.

So now a few people are shuddering that "24" has gone and done it: Blown up Los Angeles and left the most productive part of the national economy crippled and hundreds of thousands dead. An event much more likely to occur in our lifetime than any catastrophe unleashed by global warming has been put on the table (and the LCD) and suddenly tongues are wagging about responsibility.

"Israel must be wiped off the map," Iranian President Ahmadinejad has declared, and he's been repeating the same basic message for a couple of years. No "too far" language regarding him from the critics of "24" I'll wager.

It isn't "only a television show," and appeals to the First Amendment are beside the point. The key question is whether the drama is a bit of absurd science fiction, or the projection of a not-so-distant future, not in its particulars, but in its awful core depiction.

Americans don't like to think of such an attack upon America. But prior to 9/11, they didn't like to think of airplanes crashing into skyscrapers and thousands dead in a moment and the government within hours of being decapitated.

Give the producers another fistful of Emmys and settle in to see how Jack handles post-nuclear America. "OK, I think we can agree that this is a big step up from the canister plot," Dave Barry wrote on his blog in real time after the blinding flash, a reference to the rather labored plot from last year, and an indication that even the veteran humorist who has been dining out on "24" for the past few years to the delight of a huge audience was taken aback. A shock to many, an upsetting nightmare for others.

A depiction of a happy ending for our enemies.


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 24; jackbauer; wot
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To: Ben Mugged

If terrorists can get enough weapons-grade fissionable material, they can pay starving weapons techs or scientists to refurbish or create a new device. The terrorists don't have to know how, they only need money and fear to make others do it. All they would have to do is to kidnap the family of a knowledgeable person and hold knives to their throats, and they can probably get some uranium or plutonium with enough money. And they have a lot of money. So easy, a caveman with millions of dollars and a knife could do it.


101 posted on 01/22/2007 2:47:06 PM PST by Sender ("Great powers should never get involved in the politics of small tribes.")
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To: Indy Pendance

Are you sure the movies were made DURING the war?


102 posted on 01/22/2007 2:48:03 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Sword_Svalbardt

oh good grief...it was a suitcase nuke, not an ICBM


103 posted on 01/22/2007 2:48:27 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

104 posted on 01/22/2007 2:49:29 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: presidio9

Oh, cut it out, its just a TV show. I think all this is more Fox hate. I am no more worried today after the 24 show than I was prior to it. Worried, but based on reality, not 24. Its just an entertaining TV show. However , it does recognize our enemy.


105 posted on 01/22/2007 2:50:31 PM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: Chili Girl
I'd be safe and warm
If I was in L.A.
California dreamin'
On such a winter's day

106 posted on 01/22/2007 2:50:58 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: presidio9

I'm sorry, but didn't Sony Picture Studios put out a movie about the entire United States being overrun with snow and ice in some Fantasia-meets-Global Warming tripe??? How exactly was that not 'too far'? The idea that we would all have to move to Mexico and the picture of Mexican border agents holding back the hordes of Americans trying to invade our southern neighbor was pretty freakin' inflammatory if you ask me.


107 posted on 01/22/2007 2:50:59 PM PST by bpjam (Never Give Up, Never Surrender (Unless James Baker gives you permission))
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Chili Girl

If the Port of Los Angeles had to be closed for any length of time, whether due to radioactive contamination or whatever, it would be a huge blow to our national economy. Every company that is dependent on imports from China (like Wal-Mart) or exports to Asia would take a huge hit.


108 posted on 01/22/2007 2:52:28 PM PST by RonF
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To: bpjam

Also very stupid, I might add.


109 posted on 01/22/2007 2:53:13 PM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: presidio9

Not clear to me. The Port of Los Angeles would be an excellent target, as we our economy is dependent on a steady uninterrupted stream of imports from China. They already had a big hit on Manhattan. I don't think it had the impact they had hoped for.


110 posted on 01/22/2007 2:55:43 PM PST by RonF
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To: presidio9

I think that what is much more likely than a "suitcase bomb" is to sneak a foreign-made nuclear device into a shipping container in China or other foreign location and set it to detonate when it reaches the U.S. in either the Port of Los Angeles or the Port of New York.


111 posted on 01/22/2007 2:57:46 PM PST by RonF
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To: DCPatriot

I've been watching a lot of old movies, I just saw one about Bataan, they didn't have an ending, left you hanging as to what would happen, it was made in 1943. I commented to my hubby about the 'lame' ending, and he said, it wasn't done yet. I'll see if I can find it. There were a LOT of movies made during the war, while it was going on. And they were all pro war. Here's an interesting fact, Cary Grant donated all his salary for some movies to the war effort.


112 posted on 01/22/2007 2:59:15 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

http://www.nv.doe.gov/library/films/media/wmv/0800060.wmv
watch this!


113 posted on 01/22/2007 3:00:03 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Obviously we know little about EMP (Electro Magnetic Pulse).


114 posted on 01/22/2007 3:03:42 PM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: DCPatriot
Here's the movie. Cry 'Havoc' (1944)
115 posted on 01/22/2007 3:05:34 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: presidio9
that no mention was made of the catastrophic impact of radiation sickness

Actually, yes, there was reference to that. Go watch the episode again.

116 posted on 01/22/2007 3:06:34 PM PST by Hambone02 (USAF AMMO IYAAYAS)
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To: King Moonracer
Not far enough. There has been a traitorous US soldier and overly helpful Muzzies in the show. I'm still expecting a Halliburton clone company to be the villain...Again.

Huh? Are you saying no Arab American can be a patriot? I was pleased with their depiction of the "CAIR" clone guy ratting out his fellow Muslims in detention. It is a great role model for Muslim viewers.

The depiction of a military corrections grunt who is a turncoat is also very feasible. This is what makes "24" a cut above. On pedestrian shows such as "Alias" everyone acts according to form. Life is not so simple.

117 posted on 01/22/2007 3:06:37 PM PST by montag813
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To: BurbankKarl
And do you realize that is nothing like a "suitcase bomd"?

Where is the flux capacitor?

118 posted on 01/22/2007 3:07:22 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Sheik Hilali: Cultural learnings of Australia for make benefit of most glorious nation of Islam)
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To: King Moonracer
I'm still expecting a Halliburton clone company to be the villain...Again.

"McClennan Forrester" (Season 4) was not "the villain". They were impeding CTU to cover their own ass, not to help the terrorists.

119 posted on 01/22/2007 3:07:50 PM PST by montag813
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To: BurbankKarl

That is cool!


120 posted on 01/22/2007 3:09:20 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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