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3-year-old unnerves airline [Girl taken off flight for crying too much]
Telegram.com ^ | 01/21/07 | Dianne Williamson

Posted on 01/22/2007 10:51:57 AM PST by MotleyGirl70

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To: clamper1797

I guess I should recognize it is YOU that this is about and others with crying children should consider YOU first when faced with these problems.


61 posted on 01/22/2007 12:23:51 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: clamper1797; HairOfTheDog

Not all grandparents can fly. Many are incapacitated.


62 posted on 01/22/2007 12:24:24 PM PST by elc (Guns kill people the same way the spoon made Rosie O'Donnell fat.)
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To: Aggie Mama
My opinion, as one who has two crumb crunchers, is that I only get upset after it's obvious the parent has no intention of disciplining there "darling" or someone who never did discipline them. Thats when I loose all sympathy for the parents. I have flown with my kids and did everything possible to keep them quite. I think it was obvious from my actions that I was concerned.

I have however seen PLENTY of "parents" or people with kids who could care less what precious little johnny does..those of the ones I want to punch out...
63 posted on 01/22/2007 12:25:39 PM PST by conservativehusker (GO BIG RED!!!!)
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To: SF Republican
others with crying children should consider YOU first when faced with these problems.

Heaven forbid you would think of others ... that would be ... polite. Ah yes manners ... a concept obviously lost on some

64 posted on 01/22/2007 12:26:40 PM PST by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
Well we weren't there and probably don't know that the airline in fact didn't give them some time to calm the child.

You're right we weren't there, but from the story:

Ms. Kulesza is appreciative of the response, but believes she could have calmed her daughter down, if given the chance.

65 posted on 01/22/2007 12:26:43 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: elc

Well, good grief... We can narrow the parameters down if you want until we are arguing that it is of vital importance that all babies fly. The point is, when traveling with youngsters, it's possible they'll be asked to leave the plane if they can't handle it. Something to consider when deciding to plan a flight.


66 posted on 01/22/2007 12:27:14 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: conservativehusker

Agreed!


67 posted on 01/22/2007 12:27:17 PM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: clamper1797

I have sympathy for the airline, but also sympathy for the family. I usually offer to help a parent of an unhappy child first, before complaining. I had good kids, but kids are still kids and sometimes they cry and carry on.

We can't tell if this child was just spoiled, but really most probably just stressed. Sometimes there's just nothing to do but remove an out of control baby/toddler.
In any case, i understand the employees taking them off the flight, what were they to do?? Offend or enrage 157 other paying passengers? I think the parents ought to calm down and take the offering and forgive the airline.

As for the jacket story, I don't see how it's that airline's fault at all.


68 posted on 01/22/2007 12:27:36 PM PST by Shimmer128 (My beloved is mine and I am his. Song of Solomon 2:16)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

"Perhaps to make some of the asses on this thread happy we should have just left her in Africa after the job ended."

Fed Ex? Just cut some holes! ;-)


69 posted on 01/22/2007 12:28:16 PM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: gubamyster

Here again we just don't know what the parent considers to be, "given the chance".


70 posted on 01/22/2007 12:28:31 PM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: Aggie Mama

"Sometimes, even the best behaved children will act like children."

And as this thread shows, sometimes adults act like children too.


71 posted on 01/22/2007 12:29:12 PM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
According to the article, they didn't give them a chance to settle down the child:

Ms. Kulesza is appreciative of the response, but believes she could have calmed her daughter down, if given the chance.

72 posted on 01/22/2007 12:29:38 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: HairOfTheDog

You don't need to good grief me. You're the one making blanket statements.


73 posted on 01/22/2007 12:29:39 PM PST by elc (Guns kill people the same way the spoon made Rosie O'Donnell fat.)
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To: elc

And why exactly would someone want to bring a 2-3 year old to see an incapacitated grandparent. But should it be necessary ... then so is the trip.


74 posted on 01/22/2007 12:30:05 PM PST by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: clamper1797

So tell me, what would you do if you are two hours into 5 hour flight and your wife/husband/partner starts crying, screaming, gets sick, do you first consider the other 200 passengers? or do you try to do what you can to take care of the problem?


75 posted on 01/22/2007 12:31:16 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

I know there are some kids that just won't shut up no matter what parents do, but I think in 90% of cases, a kid who's ALWAYS crying and carrying on it can be traced to the parents.


76 posted on 01/22/2007 12:31:57 PM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Shimmer128
Do i think these parents and child should have been removed from the flight ... no

Do I think that parents should use SOME desecration before bringing a small (1-3) year old child on an airplane ... absolutely.

77 posted on 01/22/2007 12:32:54 PM PST by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: MotleyGirl70
“It wasn’t like she had a bomb strapped to her waist,” she noted.

Mrs. Kuleszas should thank her lucky stars that she did not see fit to express that thought to the flight crew at any time.

We would be reading an entirely different story than the one above.

78 posted on 01/22/2007 12:33:18 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Fell deeds awake! For wrath! For ruin! For the red dawn!)
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To: Hoodlum91

Yep, our pediatrician told me to do that to my now 12 year old who was 1 1/2 at the time of her first plane trip. God Bless any doctor that tells me to dope up my kids.


79 posted on 01/22/2007 12:33:42 PM PST by ShadowDancer (Life is not tried, it is merely survived if you're standing outside the fire.)
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To: clamper1797

"Desecration" is what 1-3 year olds cause. I think you meant "discretion". :)


80 posted on 01/22/2007 12:34:08 PM PST by linda_22003
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