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Accuser changes story in lacrosse case
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Posted on 01/11/2007 7:25:16 AM PST by SmoothTalker

"The woman adjusted the timing of the assault to earlier in the evening, a time point preceding the well-documented alibi of one accused player, Reade Seligmann. The defense, however, introduced yet more alibi evidence for Seligmann: he was on the cell phone with his girlfriend during the height of the attack as the accuser now times it."

"* In her latest statement she said the attack ended at midnight.

In previous accounts, the woman said the gang-rape ended shortly before she left in the car driven by Kim Roberts, the second dancer. Roberts called 911 as she was driving away at 12:53 a.m., according to police records. This new account leaves 50 minutes unaccounted between the end of the rape and the departure from the party.

The new statement runs contrary to time stamped photos of the party, which show the two women dancing between 12:00 and 12:04 a.m. in the living room of the house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd.

* In the latest statement, the woman says she arrived at the party at 11:20 p.m. on March 13 and that the rape began at 11:40 p.m. Her cell phone records show that she was on phone with her father and others up to one minute before the rape allegedly started."

"* The accuser has changed her description of Evans. On April 4, she viewed a photograph of Evans and said it looked like one of her assailants, except that the assailant had a moustache. In the Dec. 21 statement, the woman said the assailant had a five o'clock shadow, not a moustache. Evans has a visible five o'clock shadow in the photograph."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: crystalgailmangum; dukelax; durhamdirtbag; liarliar; lowdownho; nifonged
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To: brydic1

Oh, I thought that DNA testing had only been done on the accused players. I didn't know they tested the entire team.
Hmmmm.
Did they test every male who attended the party?
Were there only lacrosse players in attendance?


381 posted on 01/11/2007 12:52:31 PM PST by Muzzle_em (A proud warrior of the Pajamahadeen)
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To: maggief

maggief, you dig up so much, I thought for sure....

Okay, here's where I read it. Your info is always accurate, and I'm certainly not sure if this is:

http://www.dilby.com/duke-lacrosse-team-accuser.htm



382 posted on 01/11/2007 12:55:46 PM PST by toldyou
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To: toldyou

Owner ID: 8300189
Owner Address: MANGUM CRYSTAL GAIL
909 DA VINCI ST
DURHAM, NC 27704-3343
Tax Year: 2004, Receipt No: 4417216, Rate Year: 2004, Parcel Ref. Number: Personal, Due Date: 06/01/2005, Total Owned: $45.51, Amount Due: $45.51, Tax District: 1, Taxable Value: $2,320.00

Tax Year: 2005, Receipt Number: 4700887, Rate Year: 2005, Parcel Ref. Number: PERSONAL, Date Due: 03/01/2006, Total Owed: $30.95, Collected Amount: $0.00, Amount Due: $30.95, Tax District: 1, Taxable Value: $1,400.00

Superior Court: 14B Superior Court
N.C. Senate: 20th Senate
N.C. House: 55th House
Municipality: Durham


383 posted on 01/11/2007 12:58:34 PM PST by toldyou
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To: maggief

What kind of taxes are these?


384 posted on 01/11/2007 1:00:00 PM PST by toldyou
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To: toldyou

License fees on 2004, 1995 TOYT TDX 4S TER, and 2005, 1987 SAA 900 4S 9000.


385 posted on 01/11/2007 1:01:59 PM PST by maggief
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To: JLS

It's too stupid for them to have made it up. It's also too dangerous. Mangum, feeling pushed into a corner, may have recorded the conversation if she's been being pushed by them. Even if she didn't, them putting words into her mouth and then her hiring an attorney to go after them would be the final straw for Nifong. That is suborning perjury, and not even NC can overlook that. That is a very, very serious charge and is most serious against a prosecutor. Further, it would open them up to even more civil liabilities and would remove any doubt from the state bar as to whether or not Nifong should be disbarred. At this juncture, putting ANY words in that crazy broad's mouth is like playing with nitro-glycerine. The very last thing Nifong needed at this point was for Mangum to change her story again, especially to THIS story that affects her timeline, because Nifong made a statement months ago about, "What if I have a different timeline?" Because he said that, and now Mangum has a different timeline than the one she first told, it LOOKS like Nifong told her to come up with a new timeline, and THAT is the last thing he needs right now if he's going to save his own butt.


386 posted on 01/11/2007 1:02:12 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: toldyou

I don't think so. They ARE NOT public records.


387 posted on 01/11/2007 1:02:22 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Locomotive Breath

Does this count as the second? :)


388 posted on 01/11/2007 1:02:36 PM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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To: Sacajaweau; maggief

I posted before I read what the taxes were for....sorry......


389 posted on 01/11/2007 1:03:57 PM PST by toldyou
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To: All
http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/2007/01/motion.html

The full supplementary motion is here [http://www.newsobserver.com/content/news/crime_safety/duke_lacrosse/story_graphics/20070111_motion.pdf]. For those who have the time, it's worth reading in its entirety--the motion is beautifully written and elegantly crafted. Motions like this one remind us of the best in the legal profession, just as Nifong's behavior has illustrated the worst.

And from WRAL: "An assistant for Nifong told WRAL for Nifong was not taking phone calls today."

390 posted on 01/11/2007 1:04:26 PM PST by Ken H
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To: lapsus calami
§ 7A‑66. Removal of district attorneys.

Works for me.

391 posted on 01/11/2007 1:04:59 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: JLS

One other thing - her changing her story again makes it harder for Nifong to get this case to trial, not easier. It's already generated yet another motion from the defense that he has to contend with. Getting the case to trial benefits him. Not getting it to trial benefits her.


392 posted on 01/11/2007 1:05:00 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: toldyou

No probs.


393 posted on 01/11/2007 1:07:15 PM PST by maggief
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To: Enterprise

OK - you're clear.


394 posted on 01/11/2007 1:10:08 PM PST by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Carolinamom

Never gonna happen. She's a downtrodden black female, doncha know? One of the reason why lying trash get away with this kind of thing over and over are because they're a protected class, politically correct pets of the left, so they're rarely held accountable.


395 posted on 01/11/2007 1:10:36 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle
The defense wants the case dismissed and the boys record cleaned....the same thing that happened in the DC case with one of the boys.

The defense will deal with the civil suits later.

IMHO, I doubt the defense wants NiFong to extract himself. They want him "on the stand" and "under oath". They know he's lied through his teeth and they have proof.

Remember that Nifong said he hadn't talked to Crystal because he didn't want to wind up as a witness.

396 posted on 01/11/2007 1:11:58 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Emmett McCarthy
Nifong has so much to lose here that he's liable to do any damn thing to save his own butt.

Unfortunately for him, he's pushed matters to the point where simply disbarring him or obtaining a civil judgment against him simply will not suffice. By the time this plays out, his butt may be Property Of Bubba.

397 posted on 01/11/2007 1:13:00 PM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: lapsus calami

Nifong made a number of cocky remarks in rebuttal to various presentations by the defense. It is NOT to his benefit that Mangum has again changed her story, ESPECIALLY since he previously alluded to a different timeline.


398 posted on 01/11/2007 1:13:05 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: maggief

Here is something just saying that she reported her income as $11,700- $11,800 in 2005.

http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/05/21/more-duke-stupidity/


399 posted on 01/11/2007 1:13:30 PM PST by toldyou
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To: Emmett McCarthy
I hope you're right, but it's not out of the question that he spends the rest of his life writing books and hitting the talk circuit continuing to slander these guys.

Does North Carolina has a "Son of Sam" law? If so, that's one more reason to prosecute Nifong for these abuses.

400 posted on 01/11/2007 1:15:14 PM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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