[NittanyLion]

From whom did they pick pocket a BCS berth? Be specific. Have you ever even read the BCS rules?

A little sensitive, huh? Relax - I was just having some fun.

But since you want me to be specific, there's no way ND should have finished with a #12 ranking. They benefited from a preposterously high preseason ranking, and even smackdowns against Michigan and USC weren't enough to dissuade the voters. To name one, there's no way they're as good a team as West Virginia.

[Red Badger]

Have you ever even read the BCS rules?

S/B BS-C rules..........

[brittmac]

I'll concede that they benefitted from an overly high pre-season ranking, which carries an unquantifiable benefit. However, the Irish took a precipitous (and deserved) drop to #12 in the polls after losing to Michigan, and despite ticking off five consecutive wins subsequent to that loss, the Irish were dropped in the polls after wins. Incidentally, ND was dropped further in the polls after beating UCLA than USC dropped after losing to UCLA.

The truth is, however, I don't think the Irish should be ranked any higher than 11 or 12. But I don't think they should be ranked any lower, either.

As for West Virginia. Wow. They lost to South Florida. That bears repeating. West Virginia lost to South Florida. You don't get to have a 2 loss season that includes a loss to South Florida and still agitate for a BCS berth. Objectively, you must acknowledge that.

[Lakeshark]

Voting is a horrid system. Money plus voting = Notre Dame in the BCS.

We are likely to find that out again in the title game, Urban Whiner's hystrionic lip biting act will likely end up a good comedy routine.......