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Question re: Subpoenas
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Posted on 12/27/2006 7:36:25 PM PST by hsmomx3

My 13 year old daughter received a subpoena to appear in court with regard to a domestic violence assault she witnessed in our home.

However, as I was reading the subpoena, near the bottom it gave the date of the incident. This particular incident was not witnessed by the child listed on the subpoena. Instead, this was witnessed by another child not listed.

Can these charges be dismissed/dropped due to a technicality?


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To: hsmomx3; All

PRAISE GOD for your discernment and insights.

May He be abundantly with you and the kids.

Thanks for your kind words.

BTW, it's not the denomination that matters, imho.

It's the relationship with God that the spiritual warrior has maintained and how deep is that relationship and how long standing at a deep level. Folks who stamp their feet for denomination vs relationship with God, have already lost stature and respect, in my perspective.

It's just that given the ones I mentioned in FREEPMAIL, those TEND to have a higher percentage of balanced, on target, anointed folks who are gifted and experienced in spiritual warfare compared to other groups.

But there are few guarantees in such matters. That's why the list of questions.

BTW, if anyone else wants the list of questions to ask when searching for spiritual warriors for such situations, please let me know. They were just derived for this situation but I believe that they would fit most any similar situation in need of serious spiritual warfare.

PLEASE LET US CONTINUE TO UPHOLD OUR SISTER hsmox3 IN PRAYER ERNESTLY IN THE COMNG DAYS AND WEEKS. This is far from over.

Lives are at stake.


21 posted on 12/28/2006 5:37:54 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: hsmomx3

Good for you! I have found if you are nice to the court clerks, they are usually nice to you. Too many people are rude to them all day and when someone is nice and honest and a child is involved they are very helpful. Best of luck ~Pandora~


22 posted on 12/28/2006 6:17:22 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: Quix

Thank you very much.

This relationship was discovered and admitted to me and the kids August, 2005, and it had already been going on for one year at that time and I had no clue!!!!


23 posted on 12/28/2006 6:21:14 PM PST by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '08--Go BIG BEN!!!)
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To: hsmomx3

Wow. Interesting.

God's mercy to you and the kids.

Thanks for your kind words. You are quite welcome.

Praise God for any usefulness to my poor words.


24 posted on 12/28/2006 6:27:54 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

Your words were not poor. I just hope that someone else finds this info. useful as well.

It is frightening, I will admit. I have three kids, ages 13, 14, and 16 and it is the hardest age to raise virtually on your own.


25 posted on 12/28/2006 6:30:48 PM PST by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '08--Go BIG BEN!!!)
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To: hsmomx3

Which ages are what sex?

Feel free to share my email addy with them in case they have any questions they'd like to bounce off a counselor via the "safer" more "comfortable" internet! LOL.

If you share something about the pesolities of each--FREEPMAIL OR EMAIL would be find, too--I'd be happy to prayerfully ponder some check-up question for them. But, I suspect you have been doing a great job with them already.

Thanks for your kind words. My words are poor unless and until God enlivens them in the hearts, minds and lives of the hearer/readers.


26 posted on 12/28/2006 6:37:30 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: hsmomx3; All; JockoManning; Alamo-Girl; .30Carbine; Marysecretary; DarthVader

Here's some potentially useful items for other families:

1. I'm curious about the words you might use to characterize your day.

2. I don't know the best parts of your day but I'd love to hear about them.

3. I'd also love to hear about any significant struggles and your handling of them.

4. I'm eager to find ways to love you better. But I'm at a loss to think of them on my own. I need your help.

5. I hope you had some fun today. If not, I'd love to have some doable fun with you before you go to sleep. Let me know if you have a suggestion.

6. Is there anything else it would be wise for me to know? Put yourself in my place before you answer that, please.

7. When my frustrations, patience, energy etc. are running thin and I'm prone to speaking with irritation etc. I think we need some ways for you to signal me and ways for me to signal you so that we can minimize my dumping my pain on you. Any suggestions?

8. Perhaps I could post a number on the frige. Say on a 10 point scale. 10 would be ready to be hospitalized as a foaming at the mouth psychotic. 0 would be the serenity of a saint.

9 would be = to taking your life in your own hands to push any of my buttons

8 would be = to being super stressed and not fit company for human beings

7 would be = to being frazzled a lot and needing some extra TLC and patience from those around me.

6 would be = to tilting in an exasperating, frustrating, negative, stressed direction but still mostly in touch with reality. Any extra helpfulness would be appreciated.

5 would be = to mostly on an even keel and calm enough but would sure appreciate no more stress for today.

4 would be = to doing pretty well. I have some extra energy and compassion if anyone needs any.

3. would be = to I'm pretty rested and have sufficient energy to give you some significant help and time if you need any.

2. would be = to I'm really rested and energized. I'm very optimistic, hopeful and have sufficient self-esteem to be a real resource, sounding board, cheer leader, helper, if you need it.

1. would be = to I'm doing so well I'm not sure it's kind for me to talk about it. But if I can do anything for you or with you, let me know.

0. would be = to I'm serene . . . if I was doing any better, I'd be zapped straight to Heaven or be spreading golden dew drops by the basketfull to one and all.

It may not be overly functional in many situations/families to write such even on the frige--too cumbersome or some such. Just announcing to key folks at important EARLY times one's self-perceived state would be worthwhile. And, it may be that others would want to rate each other in case there might be some blindness to one's own state.

Such as: Fred, you appear to be at a #8 stress level today. What's going on and how can I/we help?


27 posted on 12/28/2006 7:26:32 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: hsmomx3

"I personally think my husband is trapped in a very demonic situation that is out of my hands.

I am no dummy and I think I can see the handwriting on the wall here.

Only God can rescue him."

I think your husband is near the implosion point where he will crash and burn. God turns people over to their own devices which consumes them and causes much heartache.He will be put into a predicament where he is forced to lookup.


28 posted on 12/28/2006 7:35:00 PM PST by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: Quix

Fascinating. Thank you for your insights!


29 posted on 12/28/2006 9:24:20 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: hsmomx3
It came from the city prosecutor's office, and yes, I left them a voice mail about the matter. We'll see what they say.

Sounds like you did the right thing. A subpoena doesn't control the case, it's just a demand to appear and can be corrected. Prayers for a just outcome.

30 posted on 12/28/2006 9:33:07 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Alamo-Girl

And thanks to you for your prayers and kind reply.


31 posted on 12/28/2006 9:40:15 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: hsmomx3
That will be based on the total amount of evidence and other factors.

If someone is subpoenaed to testify, even though it relates to a different offense than the one that was the subject of the charge, it still may be important for that witness to testify.

Sometimes people are called to negate an allegation that they were present or had certain helpful information.

Sometimes, other bad acts will be introduced in to evidence to show a habit, method of operation, or course of conduct that is consistent with the actions alleged on the date of the offense. Therefore, you must honor the subpoena until released by the party which issued it, or if asked to testify in Court, until the Judge releases you to go.

A subpoena, even if for irrelevant information, has nothing to do with the dismissal of the charges.

Don't watch so many lawyer shows on TV. It will skew the reality of the court system.
32 posted on 12/28/2006 9:45:16 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: DarthVader

You sound like my 14yod.

She told me the other day that God is in control and that her dad will crash and burn before it gets better.

Of all my kids, she is the most spiritual of the three and is very faithful about praying and reading her Bible.

One year ago, she and I went out for hot chocolate. She told me that God talks to her. I thought this sounded strange and I listened to her. She said she prays and that God told her things would be alright but it will take time. SHe is very calm about this even though this has hurt her tremendously.

She said her dad will have to hit rock bottom hard before it gets better and she also said it will not be pretty. I agree with her and I think all of us are prepared for a meltdown of some sort. When, who knows.

As for him spending time in jail, he is blaming me for this even though it was he who pushed me face down into the street, and also pushed me around and hit me across the face in the house.

It's a sad situation, no matter who is involved.


33 posted on 12/29/2006 1:33:21 AM PST by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '08--Go BIG BEN!!!)
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To: hsmomx3

"As for him spending time in jail, he is blaming me for this even though it was he who pushed me face down into the street, and also pushed me around and hit me across the face in the house."

That is why God is going to grind him to dust. He will remove all traces of this insolence. The Lord is going to show him who reigns supreme in the heavens.

"It's a sad situation, no matter who is involved."

Yes it is and it effects many people. You are in our prayers.



34 posted on 12/29/2006 4:06:08 AM PST by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; All; trussell; JockoManning; hsmomx3

DEAR BELIEVERS, TRUSSELL--Would you please post this on THE PRAYER THREAD, PLEASE

HSMOMX3 and a relative are going to begin a 3 week fast for these marriage/family problems beginning

NEXT TUESDAY 2 JAN 2007.

I believe it would be a blessing to anyone who would feel led to join in prayer during those 3 weeks--and more so for anyone joining in even a partial fast--anything--desert, meat, one meal a day, 2 meals a day, half rations . . . whatever led--and use the reminders from food thoughts to pray for the situation at every such thought.

For your prayerful consideration. Posted with HSMOMX3's permission.

Please consider praying along the following lines:

1. That the relationship between hubby and the evidently demonized girlfriend would be cut by the Sword of The Spirit and never reattach.

2. That all demonic forces involved be silenced and ineffective until such time as deliverance can be effected and effective.

3. That all those praying for this situation will be protected by Holy Spirit, angelic forces and the Blood of Jesus and abundantly blessed, strengthened, encouraged in all their relationships and righteous doings.

4. That the 3 children in hsmomx3's home will be matured IN JESUS AND WALKING IN HIS SPIRIT with forgiveness, wisdom and grace beyond their years.

5. That hurts and other destructiveness from satan would be healed and overcame in such a way that all the members of this family would be enormously better off.

6. That the ATTACHMENT DISORDER crud from hubby's childhood would be healed and overcame by God's miracle working power and by hubby's dad doing more of the righteous Christian loving yet redemptive and firm thing than he might be otherwise capable of.

7. That hsmomx3 be given a peace that passes understanding; super Holy Spirit wisdom and knowledge; grace with her kids; deep sufficient nightly sleep; joy unspeakable; serenity beyond measure; and all the folks in her household be healthy and overcoming in all their righteous doings.

8. Whatever else Holy Spirit would lead you to pray. Feel free to add to this list as you feel led. Avoid feeling a need to pray every item unless you are led to.

Sincerely, in His Love,
Qx


35 posted on 12/29/2006 9:02:30 AM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: hsmomx3

She told me the other day that God is in control and that her dad will crash and burn before it gets better.

Of all my kids, she is the most spiritual of the three and is very faithful about praying and reading her Bible.

One year ago, she and I went out for hot chocolate. She told me that God talks to her. I thought this sounded strange and I listened to her. She said she prays and that God told her things would be alright but it will take time. SHe is very calm about this even though this has hurt her tremendously.

She said her dad will have to hit rock bottom hard before it gets better and she also said it will not be pretty. I agree with her and I think all of us are prepared for a meltdown of some sort. When, who knows.
= = = =

I believe, feel that your 14 year old is entirely accurate. You might learn something about relating to God from her! LOL.

Congrats to her from me.


36 posted on 12/29/2006 9:05:51 AM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: DarthVader

Agreed.


37 posted on 12/29/2006 9:06:37 AM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: DarthVader

That is why God is going to grind him to dust. He will remove all traces of this insolence. The Lord is going to show him who reigns supreme in the heavens.
= = =

Yup.

And then blow away whatever dust is not redeemable.


38 posted on 12/29/2006 9:07:32 AM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix; All

You all have touched me so much and I thank you for your prayers and your kind words.

I felt ashamed at first to post these things but now I do not have any regrets.

And I will keep all of you in my prayers as well.


39 posted on 12/29/2006 9:30:43 AM PST by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '08--Go BIG BEN!!!)
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To: hsmomx3

I'm so sorry you are having to go through this. My first husband and I divorced because of his adultery and alcoholism so I do have a sense of what you are going through. I wanted to reconcile but he didn't. We remained friends thankfully. Our boys were grown by then but it still affected them. I'll pray for deliverance for him and reconciliation for you and forgiveness for what he's done. It IS possible. Love, Maryxxx


40 posted on 12/29/2006 10:46:58 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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