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Mel Wins Friday: #1 'Apocalypto' Bigger Opening Weekend Than 'Braveheart'
Deadline Hollywood Daily ^
| December 8, 2006
| Nikki Finke
Posted on 12/09/2006 3:38:57 AM PST by Mel Gibson
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To: DCPatriot
No doubt - it is a film I need to see again. It is complex and replete with historical metaphors that resonate with our times.
Splendid fare...one of the best in cinematic film history and I do not say that lightly...as a Hitch and Kubrick fan.
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posted on
12/09/2006 6:12:01 PM PST
by
eleni121
( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
I went to see it again in a theater with DLP projection. It was much better. A digital movie projected digitally makes a for a better experience.
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posted on
12/09/2006 6:13:33 PM PST
by
Varda
To: Varda
I'd be interested in knowing your thoughts about the Christian references.
I'd be interested too...I have to see it again. The pace and the excitement of the work got in the way of the more analytical levels of thinking.
Your points though make so much sense. The everyday pace of life, the fun and enjoyment of friends, the shared solidarity of the community and its ways...and yet the harbingers of death are taken slightly and dismissed...until it's too late. And the cycle renews itself.
There is much to consider here....
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posted on
12/09/2006 6:18:36 PM PST
by
eleni121
( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
To: DCPatriot
Where are you geting these fabulous photos?
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posted on
12/09/2006 6:40:37 PM PST
by
eleni121
( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
To: eleni121
Google "Apocalypto photos"...and choose which of the half dozen links which appear in seconds. ;^)
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posted on
12/09/2006 9:26:23 PM PST
by
DCPatriot
("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
To: eleni121
To: Howard Jarvis Admirer
I cannot believe you gave away the ending. You are the type of person I immensely dislike.
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posted on
12/09/2006 10:42:43 PM PST
by
Dave W
To: Irisshlass
Some thimk accepting Christ as Savior and escaping hell is the emd of the transaction. It is only the beginning.
Being a Christian is much more than "fire insurance".
The "building" would be serving God in the fullness of The Holy Spirit, seeking Him with all our heart, mind, soul and strength, and growing closer to Him each day, preaching the good news of Christ and winning souls, and walking in holiness.
Thank you for asking.
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posted on
12/09/2006 11:11:11 PM PST
by
Manic_Episode
(Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
To: Irisshlass
P.S.
Catholics can and do build upon the foundation of Christ as I described above, but in my experience it was never taught as such Sunday mornings, and those who do don't walk around with a giant Catholic chip on their shoulder, they simply preach Christ.
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posted on
12/09/2006 11:25:56 PM PST
by
Manic_Episode
(Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
To: Dave W
In order to defend Mel from his critics, the Mel's underlying theme had to be pointed out. Critics claimed that Mel was, among other things, a violence junky using Mayans to essentially make a slasher flick with no theme. I pointed out in my previous posts that Mel was making a point - that the Mayans represented the culture of death and the Spanish Christians arriving symbolized the culture of life - i.e. Western civilization, Christianity, and sanity. This is not a popular position among liberals. To bring out this point, the end of the movie had to be discussed and sums up my defence of Mel, where, inadvertently, Spanish Christians saved Jaguar Paws life.
When one is debating and defending the theme of the movie on Freerepublic - some parts of the movie may be exposed. I think I've shown part of Mel's motivation for making this movie - having a contrast between the Mayan culture of death and Western culture and Christianity.
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posted on
12/09/2006 11:53:08 PM PST
by
Howard Jarvis Admirer
(Howard Jarvis, the foe of the tax collector and friend of the California homeowner)
To: Howard Jarvis Admirer
Well, I noticed right away the iron cross, the metal helmets.
The two Mayans forgot about Jaquar Paw...they were so taken by the 3 "giant" boats and white men.
It would like you and I witnessing a flying saucer land and aliens disembarking.
Suddenly, killing Jaquar Paw was not important to them.
And the Jesuits taught me that the Aztecs were brutally defeated and killed as savages by Cortez & Associates, Inc..
Even the Spaniards knew that you have to kill a lot of people before you can 'save' them...if you get my drift.
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posted on
12/10/2006 8:11:16 AM PST
by
DCPatriot
("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
To: Howard Jarvis Admirer
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posted on
12/10/2006 8:15:15 AM PST
by
DCPatriot
("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
To: Dave W
Give HJA a small break...the trip (of the film) is worth any ending.
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posted on
12/10/2006 8:40:13 AM PST
by
eleni121
( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
fabulous pics! And I agree...the more I think about what I saw...the more I believe in its genius.
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posted on
12/10/2006 8:41:50 AM PST
by
eleni121
( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
To: DCPatriot
My guess is that the Spanish had to use persuasive methods to make it clear to the locals that they were not going to participate in the temple rituals :)
Cannons and swords can be very persuasive.
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posted on
12/10/2006 9:27:38 AM PST
by
Howard Jarvis Admirer
(Howard Jarvis, the foe of the tax collector and friend of the California homeowner)
To: Howard Jarvis Admirer
And again...can you imagine seeing a demonstration of cannon fire and explosives for the first time.
It would be the same as you and I witnessing a successful ray gun that vaporizes the target...uh, like in the movies! ;^)
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posted on
12/10/2006 9:31:16 AM PST
by
DCPatriot
("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
To: All
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posted on
12/10/2006 10:08:47 AM PST
by
abb
(The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
To: carolinalivin
So is the population when you compare this country across 10 years (or 60+ in the case of Gone With The Wind, etc.)
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posted on
12/10/2006 10:20:55 AM PST
by
Bernard
("Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for." Will Rogers)
To: Manic_Episode
Giant Catholic chip on their shoulder?
I don't know what that means.
You keep shooting arrows at Catholics, but then deny you really do. You're somewhat confusing. Reminds me of the type of tactics middle eastern countries play on much larger scale though.
Why do Christians as yourself continually attack the Catholic Church, when Catholics have respect for other faiths and don't succumb to this.
You say in your experience building on Christ is not taught as such in Sunday mornings.
Again, I question if you were truly a Catholic. We have the Mass, the greatest prayer on earth to God, the Eucharist, the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ, whom Christ said and instituted this Holy Sacrament at the Last Supper, to Eat His Body and Drink His Blood in order to have everlasting life, life within you. How could you give up that up? God humbling himself to share Himself, His power within us to strengthened us. Other than the Greek Orthodox no other Church has this. Did you skip that part in the Bible? Christ said to think spiritual, not physical. Even Daniel speaks of the Daily Sacrifice in the last days, what does that mean to you? I could say every time I take Holy Communion I am Born Again! This is not building on Christ???? Or the Sacrament of Confession. It is not man that heals us, But Christ himself. The Great Healer who cleanses us. You say you know scripture why did you miss the part when Christ's first words to his Apostles and Command was to go out and forgive men's sins. We are on the ship and you are in the water. Grab a line so we can pull you in before you sink.
To: Bernard
Now we're into a formula I can't deal with. Percentages of population buying tickets. Movies rereleased over decades etc. I guess the best is box office adjusted for inflation.
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