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Microsoft has OS patents; Linux has none ~ Perspective: by Peter Yared ~ CNET
CNET ^ | December 4, 2006 | Peter Yared

Posted on 12/06/2006 10:26:45 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Tough times at Linus Torvald's employer...had to cut 1/3 of their staff this week, CEO resigns:

Linux lab cuts staff, focuses on legal issues

http://news.com.com/Linux+lab+cuts+staff%2C+focuses+on+legal+issues/2100-7344_3-6140514.html


21 posted on 12/07/2006 9:57:31 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

Ive heard iffy things about novell support and I have a large RedHat footprint that I don't really want to turn into a heterogeneus Linux environment.

Still if I was looking at starting a Linux environment I would give Novell a shot. This move is a *really* good thing for Linux and either Red Hat will follow suit (assuming MS is not in bed with Novell just to Bury RedHat) or they will face a much more competitive Linux market (which in the end is good for everyone).

As to your article I *might* be willing to go with Oracle on oracle servers only but there is no way I would go there with anything else.

RedHat has a reputation of being expensive, and compared to novell they might be. I find not too many people know redhat beyond the price they post on their website. Programs like the development entitlements (for Development and Testing) provides a great value. For production systems that you run for a cost of anywhere between 300 and 2400 dollars you can run with rhn support a test or development box for 50$.

RedHat also offers discounts of up to 50% depending on how many servers you are running. Right now Im in about the 30% tier.

RedHat also offers a discount of 25% for three year deals.

Finally if you buy an entitlement while you own another entitlement you will not be charged more than the lowest you have paid so right now I pay about 1400 for the most expensive rhel licenses (AS Premium) and I pay a touch over 200 for any ES and I am locked into that price until at least 2009.


22 posted on 12/08/2006 7:13:10 AM PST by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: Echo Talon
Linux fans should be happy about the MS move, not fearful...

The fear is that they will use the deal with Novell to argue that Novell also believes that Linux violates Microsoft's patents (whether it does or not and, if so, whether they are legit or not).

Therefore, they would tell the judge, only Novell has a legal right to distribute Linux as they are the only ones who have a deal with Microsoft. If the judge buys that, other Linux vendors (like RedHat) could be shut down and possibly OSS developers in the US. If it worked, Microsoft would narrow the Linux competition down to just Novell and then, well, goodbye Novell.

Will it happen? I don't know, but the idea is hardly paranoid given Microsoft's anti-competitive past, today's overly-litigious society and the fact that, most likely, every piece of software violates some patent.

23 posted on 12/08/2006 7:14:18 AM PST by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: Golden Eagle
You're obviously confused with Bill Clinton.

It wasn't used in a technological context. It was used in a liberal, it's-cool-to-use-African-words context. From the article:

"Society is important because of Ubuntu."

The definition of Ubuntu (once again, your link): " ubuntu, noun. Humanity or fellow feeling; kindness [Nguni]." Collins English Dictionary

You may or may not know this, but the word existed long before a South African entrepreneur named Mark Shuttleworth branded a distro with the name.

24 posted on 12/08/2006 7:23:39 AM PST by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: Señor Zorro

I think Golden Eagle uses Ubuntu!


25 posted on 12/08/2006 1:24:32 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: Golden Eagle
IBM's gross income and stock market cap are both down since the SCO lawsuit began.

That was a hope of SCO and its funding source, Microsoft. Damages to IBM's business (including AIX) from SCO's actions are part of IBM's counterclaims.

26 posted on 12/08/2006 4:22:04 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Señor Zorro; Golden Eagle
You may or may not know this, but the word existed long before a South African entrepreneur named Mark Shuttleworth branded a distro with the name.

This was all explained to GE before when he tried yet again to make Linux a political issue like his partners in crime Richard Stallman and Howard Dean.

27 posted on 12/08/2006 4:26:43 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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like his partners in crime Richard Stallman and Howard Dean.

Your partners in crime, not mine, since you're the one always defending them. LOL at your pathetic absurdity, but as we know leftists have no shame.

28 posted on 12/08/2006 8:44:37 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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I think Golden Eagle uses Ubuntu!

Then your thinker is obviously broke. Foreign leftist crap that Clinton likes, you won't catch me anywhere near it.

29 posted on 12/08/2006 8:48:25 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Your partners in crime, not mine

I do not have a philosophical approach to software -- you and Stallman do. I do not politicize software -- you and Howard Dean do. Your buddies, not mine.

30 posted on 12/09/2006 8:04:34 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
oreign leftist crap that Clinton likes

Uh, GE, basic comprehension issue here again. We've explained it to you before: It's as if someone named a Linux distro "Mission Accomplished" and you saying Bush loves Linux because he said "Mission Accomplished" in a speech.

31 posted on 12/09/2006 8:13:24 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat; Golden Eagle

Oh, I know. But then again, has he learned his lesson on anything, yet?


32 posted on 12/09/2006 9:39:16 AM PST by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: Golden Eagle; Abcdefg; rzeznikj at stout; JRios1968
I think Golden Eagle uses Ubuntu!

Then your thinker is obviously broke. Foreign leftist crap that Clinton likes, you won't catch me anywhere near it.


TRANSLATION: You bet your arse I use Ubuntu, and I use Fedora and Red Hat as well. You all are commies!!! /iggle mode
33 posted on 12/10/2006 1:30:01 PM PST by MikefromOhio (losers are fun to talk too....especially when they don't realize they are losers.....)
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To: Golden Eagle

Thinker?

Iggle, just stop already--seriesly...


34 posted on 12/10/2006 6:37:15 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Golden Eagle; Abcdefg; rzeznikj at stout; MikefromOhio

Iggle...honestly...don't you get tired of exposing yourself as an idiot every time you log on to FR?


35 posted on 12/10/2006 7:58:37 PM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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ROFL, someone spending their time defending leftists is hardly anyone to be calling other longtime posters idiots. Exactly what have you brought to the discussion other than an obvious lack of knowledge on these subjects? Can you post a single thing of relevance when it comes to Richard Stallman's "manifesto" and Howard Dean's "open source politics"? Other than you like them?


36 posted on 12/10/2006 8:49:10 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: JRios1968

So you support leftists like Stallman, who want all software to be free, including this:

http://politics.slashdot.org/politics/06/12/10/0151206.shtml

And you believe that US companies and individuals should embrace all "open source" products, have them managed by some "community" or government, rather than rely on our existing capitalist industries and markets:

http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/08/2030246

Apparently so, then all you have in your defense is calling me an idiot. LOL


37 posted on 12/10/2006 9:12:53 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

You assume a lot...of course, when your head is buried that deeply in your rear storage area, it's easy to assume.


38 posted on 12/10/2006 9:31:18 PM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: JRios1968

Well you're welcome to attempt a comment that indicates some basic knowledge of these subjects, but so far you don't even seem to grok /. And that's speaking your language.


39 posted on 12/10/2006 9:49:57 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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ROFL, someone spending their time defending leftists is hardly anyone to be calling other longtime posters idiots.

The difference, iggle, is that while all of us that support open source software know what RMS's politics are, we also know that he is basically a figurehead. He's also counter-balanced by people who are not leftists, like Eric Raymond and Bruce Perens.

On the other hand, you rabidly support Bill Gates, also a well-known leftist.

It's called hypocrisy, and it's one of the reasons that we all laugh at you and call you an idiot.

40 posted on 12/12/2006 3:10:44 AM PST by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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