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Why Florida Should Play Ohio State
CollegeFootballNews.com ^ | Posted Dec 2, 2006 | By Pete Fiutak

Posted on 12/02/2006 9:05:42 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin2

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Well, Sagarin's computer rankings are out through yesterday's games. Michigan is second, and Florida is third. Strength of schedule for Michigan remains 13th, while Florida is 19th.

A little additional research shows that Colley (another of the formulas used for the BCS) through last week had Michigan with the 5th toughest schedule strength, and Florida with the 48th toughest. Colley also had the Big Ten as the clear #1 conference, and the SEC as #2.

41 posted on 12/03/2006 8:04:37 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Turbopilot
why should OSU have to beat Michigan twice to win a national championship, yet Michigan would only have to win one of two OSU games to win the championship?

Ummmm...because the only game that counts for the "national championship" is the national championship game?

Ohio State has to win in Glendale on January 8th to become "national champion," just as whoever is its opponent must, regardless of who its opponent is. What happened in the regular season is irrelevant, once the contestants are chosen.

Of course, the Michigan that would play in Glendale isn't the same Michigan that lost to tOSU (for one thing, Manningham would probably be healthy), which is only one reason the whole notion of a "national champion" in college football remains silly.

42 posted on 12/03/2006 8:08:15 AM PST by NonZeroSum
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To: Teacher317
Even Michigan was playing from behind for the entire game.

You must have been watching a different game than I did. Much of the game, perhaps, but not the entire one. Michigan drove down the field and scored a touchdown on the first possession of the game.

43 posted on 12/03/2006 8:10:43 AM PST by NonZeroSum
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To: nickcarraway
There was nothing wrong with the old bowl system.

I agree; I was clearly complaining about the new (BCS) system, not the old bowl system. But if/when the BCS is abandoned there's little or no chance of college football going back to the old system, and if that's the case then an attractive option, imo, would be to incorporate the bowls within an 8-team playoff format.

44 posted on 12/03/2006 8:13:54 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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45 posted on 12/03/2006 8:20:49 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Prayers for my cousin Jeff and his family.)
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To: JCEccles
Hogwash.

That was razor close, the game hanging on one call.

Florida won't be able to hang with them at all.

46 posted on 12/03/2006 9:09:10 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Teacher317
Michigan and Florida had one common opponent this year.

Michigan pulled its starters in the fourth quarter in a rout.

Florida was gasping against them and almost lost.

47 posted on 12/03/2006 9:12:08 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: MikefromOhio

Free Boise State!


48 posted on 12/03/2006 9:14:16 AM PST by RabidBartender (Save the cheerleader, save the world.)
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To: Turbopilot

Why Should have had Florida to beat FSU twice in 1996 to win the national championship???

If Dallas plays Indy in the Super Bowl, why should Dallas have to beat the Colts twice to win it, or if Chicago plays New England in the Super Bowl, why should New England have to beat Chicago twice???


49 posted on 12/03/2006 9:23:47 AM PST by Perdogg (I'm Perdogg and I approved this message)
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

What is the objective criteria here to determine strength of schedule???? Isn't strength of schedule based on polls, which if every sportswriter could do, would have Notre Dame ranked #1 every year.


50 posted on 12/03/2006 9:25:46 AM PST by Perdogg (I'm Perdogg and I approved this message)
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To: Mr. Mojo
and if that's the case then an attractive option, imo, would be to incorporate the bowls within an 8-team playoff format.

I'm thinking along that same line with a hybrid of the existing bowl format and the playoff format. The only difference is I would favor the same sixteen team format they use for the Division 1(formerly 1-AA) playoffs.
51 posted on 12/03/2006 9:47:10 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Teacher317

"Actually, that's a simple one to answer. There is no "unfairness"."

I one of his last interviews, if not the very last, Bo Schembechler was asked about a rematch between OSU/Michigan, Bo said no way, it would be unfair to the team that won. I will take the word of Mr. Schembechler before I take the word of any fan.


52 posted on 12/03/2006 11:13:39 AM PST by MadLibDisease
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To: Mr. Mojo

I am against the playoffs at all costs. I like college football. The bowl system was part of college football and made it unique, and fun. Yes, there was always something to argue about. That's part of college football. If you want 100% certainty, go watch a math exposition. I don't see the need to turn college football into the XFL.


53 posted on 12/03/2006 12:41:46 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired.

The bowl system was part of college football and made it unique, and fun.

And again, I was a big fan of that bowl system, and would like to see it return. But understand that it no longer exists, and it's not coming back. So the options remaining are the current BCS (which almost nobody likes) and a playoff system incorporating the bowls (which many longtime fans are lobbying for).

If you want 100% certainty, go watch a math exposition.

How is a playoff system equate to 100% certainty?

If you want "sytle points" go watch figure skating or gymnastics.

54 posted on 12/03/2006 1:17:27 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

If not Michigan, then Florida would be my second choice. Somebody has to play OSU.


55 posted on 12/03/2006 1:25:41 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

If not Michigan, then Florida would be my second choice. Somebody has to play OSU.


56 posted on 12/03/2006 1:25:50 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: MadLibDisease

Looks like Bo knows... BCS insiders are saying Florida


57 posted on 12/03/2006 1:49:00 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Mr. Mojo

If you like the bowl system, why is the BCS worse than playoffs? The BCS was just meant to be a transition to playoffs. At least it's preventing playoffs from happening.


58 posted on 12/03/2006 1:58:03 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
I like the old bowl system -- the one where the winner of the Pac-10 plays the winner of the Big-10 in the Rose Bowl and regional bowl rivalries ruled the day. I liked all the college football traditions. But the BCS system destroyed all that was good and kept all that was barely tolerable. It's half-assed, and it kept the bad half. Either keep it the way it was or go to full-fledged playoff system.

The former doesn't look like it's going to happen, so I say let's get on with the latter. If you don't like the idea of a playoff system, I respect that. ....you're far from alone.

But let's not get carried away and compare it to watching a math exposition...lol.

59 posted on 12/03/2006 2:17:31 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: nickcarraway
I am against the playoffs at all costs. I like college football. The bowl system was part of college football and made it unique, and fun. Yes, there was always something to argue about. That's part of college football. If you want 100% certainty, go watch a math exposition. I don't see the need to turn college football into the XFL.

Bravo! Well said.

I feel the same way. I like how every game has meaning. To have something like a 4-16 game playoff would make games like the Nov. 18th OSU-Michigan contest completely meaningless. I'm an OSU fan and can truthfully say that if we had lost to UM, I would be against a rematch. We would have lost our biggest game of the year. Time to forget about do-overs and prepare for revenge in next years game.

There will always be controversy no matter what system is used. In a playoff, there will still be arguments from the teams who are left outside of the top-4 or even top-16, seedings, regions where teams play, etc.

60 posted on 12/03/2006 2:20:18 PM PST by Nasher (GO BUCKS)
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