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To: rlmorel
But I do have fun using OS X.

NOT a flame question, since I am seriously considering a Mac purchase.

I am a 25+ year PC user...what is fun about OS X. BTW...I don't do video...so that is irrelevant to me.

74 posted on 12/01/2006 10:47:39 PM PST by paulat (about)
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To: paulat
I am a 25+ year PC user...what is fun about OS X. BTW...I don't do video...so that is irrelevant to me.

In my opinion, Mac OS X is a better operating system than Windows in nearly every aspect - better quality, better design, easier to use, more secure, more functional, more fun. Here are the links to info about the current version Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, and the forthcoming Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard. The quality of the Mac hardware is excellent. Apple has the highest customer satisfaction ratings in the industry.

All new Macs include the iLife software. There are thousands of Mac programs available from Apple, Microsoft and third parties.

Macs can run Windows now, but like all Windows computers, that requires more maintenance and security precautions, which is no fun.

Finally, Free Republic looks great on Macs with the Safari web browser. This is fun.

78 posted on 12/02/2006 12:44:32 AM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: paulat
It didn't seem like a flame question to me...seemed like a perfectly legitimate question. I began using the Mac in 1987. My sister had bought one for her business, but ended up not using it and she left it at my house. She told me I could play around with it, but gave me no instructions, and there were none with it.

So...I took it out of its bag, just plugged in the components where they kind of looked like they fit, and...turned it on. I remember the room was kind of dark, and the little smiley face mac icon came up, and...then it was a blank screen with an icon of a hard drive. I just sat there and figured it out, and I was completely hooked. The ultimate demonstration of intuitiveness...a brand new technology with no instructions for a user!

I have had discussions with other mac users, and there are a variety of things that make it kind of...well...fun!

There is a polish and attention to detail in the Mac OS. It is not perfect, and there are a few things that Microsoft does better. To be fair, I will give an example (since I am equally comfortable using both): Using a right click to move a file in MS Windows works much better. You can right click on a file to "cut" it and then paste it somewhere else, essentially moving it. That works well, and is how logically it should work. Apple has no analog to that. BUT...they do have a VERY cool feature called "spring loaded folders" where you left click and hold a file or folder to drag it, and you hold it over a directory. The directory "springs" open, and you can drag the file over a folder inside that, and THAT one springs open...you can navigate to all the way to where you want the file to live, and just unclick there and it puts it inside that directory and leaves the window open. If you wanted to back out of a folder (say it wasn't the one you wanted to go into) you just move it outside of it, and that one springs shut back to the previous one. If you are doing this on the same hard drive, it moves it. If you do it on a mapped drive or a separate drive, it COPIES it. (you can move it to a separate drive instead of copying it by holding your COMMAND key down as you release it onto the new drive) You can configure the setting for folders to spring open instantly or after a delay, or...you can hold down the space bar to just make them spring instantly open.

The thing that makes it fun is...Apple doesn't really advertise this. Most users who know about this feature tell me they find out this function by accident (as I originally did), and...they go "huh?" Then they try it again...you get a smile when you realize what it does, and you think..."That is COOL!"

Another example, I found out by accident is, if you have a save dialog window open and you press COMMAND-D, it makes the desktop the save location. Or, if you drag a directory onto the save dialog box, it makes that the save location...or...if you have a removable media such as a zip drive and you plug it in, it makes THAT the save location automatically.

The COOLEST absolutely most useful interface innovation in my opinion is what Apple calls "Expose". By pressing F9, every single window or document open on your screen shrinks down and is displayed simultaneously on your desktop in miniature, and you can click it to make it the active window. Or, pressing F10, only the windows of the active application shrink and are displayed (Very, very useful when working in Photoshop doing compositing and you might have 5-10 different images open!) OR...hitting F11, and ALL windows disappear from the desktop. You can configure it extensively and map it (I have the F9 key mapped to the scrolling button on my mouse so that when I press it instead of rolling it, the F9 option activates! Rather than my explaining it, check out this web page Apple explains Expose-be sure to watch the Quicktime movie in the upper right corner...:) The thing that is really cool is that drag and drop works in Expose between windows...VERY nifty!

An additional point is that Apple implements Drag and Drop VERY differently than Microsoft does...much richer, more intuitive and better in my opinion. A lot of people don't use drag and drop quite as much in Windows, because the behavior is not consistent, and sometimes produces unexepected results. On the Mac, it is consistent throughout the OS and applications.

Along the same lines...Key commands are consistent as well throughout the Mac OS and applications. The same key commands (I am not talking about CTRL-C and CTRL-V, I am talking nearly all key commands) So, in ANY Mac application, hitting CTRL-Q will quit the application. This is not true in Windows. And there is also a consistency in menu construction and placement in Mac OS that is not there many times in Windows. There are some suble differences that throw Windows Users off when they use a Mac, and they can find it a bit confusing. In Windows, when you open a Word document, every single window has the menu items at top such as File, Edit, etc. It is as if each document is a separate instance of MS Word opening. On the Mac, those Menu items take up the top bar of the desktop, and each window is just that, a window with no File, Edit, View or anything else. That throws people for a loop, but is more logical in my opinion.

In my opinion, Mac OS is FAR superior at multitasking...my PC is somewhat spotty, and it is a 2GHz with 1GB RAM so it isn't a slouch, but it is not as facile as my Mac. I once did an experiment to see how much it could take, and I had an unbelieveable amount of stuff open before it began to bog down on me.

Also...don't listen to what people say about Windows being just as secure and safe as a Mac...it isn't so, and it isn't just due to the lower marketshare of Macs. When you turn on your PC for the first time and set your personal account up, it sets you up as equivalent to a "Root" user. That means you can do ANYTHING to that PC. And that ain't good. On the Mac, you need to jump through a few hoops to be a Root user. Plus, all services and ports on the Mac are turned OFF by default when you set it up. This is a good and secure thing.

On a Mac, for the most part, installing and uninstalling applications is not fraught with the same dangers as it is on a PC. Have you ever wanted to install or uninstall an application and thought "What is this going to do to my PC...Gulp..." Much rarer on a Mac.

I do support on both PC and Mac, and well...viruses and spyware...BIGGEST problem, hands down.

But the bottom line is, and as many Mac users might have difficulty putting it into words, the OS is more...well...organic. It somehow has a feeling of a living thing or personality to it. Windows is more...machine like.

98 posted on 12/02/2006 7:15:13 AM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: paulat

Mac OS X is a bulletproof, intuitive OS. You turn a Mac on, and it just works...like an appliance.

A Windows machine is like a spoiled cat in comparison...just look at all the MSDOS based vestigial suggestions that have already infested this thread...all in the name of making your Windows PC run better.

Get a Mac and free yourself from such grief forever.


215 posted on 12/04/2006 10:36:57 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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