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Of all those names on the ballot, there are 10 worthy of consideration at this time:

Cal Ripken
Tony Gwynn
Lee Smith
Rich Gossage
Bert Blyleven
Jack Morris
Andre Dawson
Jim Rice
Dave Concepcion
Alan Trammell

Of these ten only two are DEFINITELY, no-questions-asked, Hall-worthy: Cal Ripken and Tony Gwynn. Ripken is the second-best shortstop of all time, second only to Honus Wagner.

The other eight are maybes. (Don't try to sell me on Garvey or Murphy, I won't buy it.)

McGwire certainly has HOF *numbers*, no doubt about that. But I think it's wise at this time to hold off on voting him in until he can be cleared of the strong suspicion of chemical enhancement.

I live right here in St. Louis, and I witnessed--and cheered for--Big Mac's prodigious blasts. At the time I thought he was just a big strong dude who at most took a legal, over-the-counter protein supplement. But now I'm not so sure.

There are three other guys out there, not yet eligible, with certain HOF numbers but likewise under a cloud of suspicion: Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, and Rafael Palmeiro. I say no Hall unless we're sure they didn't cheat.

BTW, I am HOPING, and crossing my fingers, that my man Ron Santo--easily one of the top ten all-time at the most underrepresented Hall position, third base--finally gets in this coming year through the Veterans Committee.

Too bad it's too late for Buck O'Neil to get in while he was still alive.

1 posted on 11/27/2006 9:32:39 AM PST by Charles Henrickson
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2 posted on 11/27/2006 9:34:12 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Baseball fan.)
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Ripken is the second-best shortstop of all time, second only to Honus Wagner.

When you combine all aspects of the game, there's little doubt about that. But Ozzie Smith was the best defensive shortstop.

3 posted on 11/27/2006 9:36:13 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Charles Henrickson

Dale Murphy belongs in the HoF.


4 posted on 11/27/2006 9:36:28 AM PST by TheBigB (Do you think "Lady in the Water" is in Ted Kennedy's NetFlix queue?)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Bert Blyleven: The only Hall of Fame eligible pitcher with at least 3,000 (3,701) strikeouts not yet in the Hall of Fame.


7 posted on 11/27/2006 9:40:37 AM PST by Spruce
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To: Charles Henrickson
Ripken is the second-best shortstop of all time, second only to Honus Wagner.

Isn't Honus Wagner only "cool" because his baseball card is worth the most? My great grandfather followed baseball pretty well and had never even heard of Honus Wagner. You're not pimping his rookie card, are you? :O)

8 posted on 11/27/2006 9:42:27 AM PST by jdm
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To: Charles Henrickson
"McGwire certainly has HOF *numbers*, no doubt about that. But I think it's wise at this time to hold off on voting him in until he can be cleared of the strong suspicion of chemical enhancement."

McGwire acknowledged that he took Androstenedione while he was still active.

Andro is not a steroid and was available in "health food" stores at the time. I don't hold that against him anymore that I would if he were taking Vitamin B-15.

10 posted on 11/27/2006 9:43:29 AM PST by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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Ripken and Gwynn move to the front of the line so the borderline guys like Rice and Blyleven have no chance this year. If I were a sportswriter, I would not vote for McGwire this year. Maybe that will force some answers from him. I do think McGwire goes in this year or next.

Harold Baines is the one worth watching. He won't go in this year but his numbers are Hall-worthy. The problem is that he was a DH most of his career and never had any "main stage" moments.

Canseco - the new standard bearer for most HRs while staying out of the Hall.

I think the Veterans Committee has made it too difficult to get in now. It was too easy for too long. Now they've made it too tough.

And too bad about O'Neal. Baseball had its chance to honor him and they choked.


16 posted on 11/27/2006 9:54:09 AM PST by Tall_Texan (NO McCain, Rudy, Romney, Hillary, Kerry, Obama or Gore in 2008!)
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I say no Hall unless we're sure they didn't cheat.

They didn't cheat. It was legal, and they got their hits off of drug-enhanced pitchers. End of story...except for a few sanctimonious sportswriters who dream of becoming the next Keith Olbermann.

17 posted on 11/27/2006 9:56:07 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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Good 'ol Ron Santo. That brings back a lot of memories--Kessinger, Beckert, Santo, Banks, Hickman................

I hope Ron gets in. He has been through so much and he well deserves it.


19 posted on 11/27/2006 10:01:13 AM PST by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '07--Go BIG BEN!!!)
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To: Charles Henrickson

As founder and President of SBFBHOF (Shooty Babbit For Baseball Hall Of Fame) I may have a lot of work ahead of me.  I am deeply saddened at his continued non-inclusion on the list of candidates.

Owl_Eagle

If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.


26 posted on 11/27/2006 10:27:07 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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I personally think that besides Cal Ripken and Tony Gwynn (both of which are "locks" to get voted to the Hall of Fame this year), they should vote Rich "Goose" Gossage into the Hall of Fame, too. Gossage in his heyday was one of the most intimidating and dominating closers on the pitching mound, and he should be honored for that feat.


58 posted on 11/27/2006 5:33:57 PM PST by RayChuang88
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To: Charles Henrickson

Great post!
I agree with your top 10 list - these guys made contributions to the game on and off the field.
On a cynical note - why not introduce a new category for inductees - Performance Enhanced Players. As it is now, you can go in as a player, a manager, an umpire or an executive. Why not as a performance enhanced player? How about calling them Hybrids? Roiders? Mutations? Cheaters?
GSD


62 posted on 11/28/2006 5:52:31 AM PST by GraniteStateDad
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