Agreed!
Dark, are you an engineer or designer of frames? Or a rider?
Cheers!
I am just a daily long-term rider.
I am a successful bipolar "convict" who has used the bike to escape the need for medication.
I am 58 y/o and ride 5-6 hard hours a week.
Love my bike. It has saved my life many times over.
I spent my career on Wall St as an investment banker until my "condition" overtook me. Now I ride and write.
Things are better now than before.
My brother was a hyperactive kid as was I. He is also a committed cyclist.
I recommend it to all who like or need exercise (which IMO is all of us).
Good luck with your cycling.