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Woman, 92, Dies in Shootout With Atlanta Police...
Breitbart.com ^ | 11/21/06 | AP

Posted on 11/22/2006 1:30:23 AM PST by Sprite518

A 92-year-old woman was shot to death Tuesday after she fired at three narcotics officers trying to serve a warrant at her house, officials said.

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To: wideawake
If it were really about money to pay government employees, then recreational narcotics would be legal and sold by a state monopoly at very profitable margins.

If the government was dealing the drugs, a different smaller set of government workers would be needed. This would greatly displease those currently receiving the Taxpayer's hard earned money.

61 posted on 11/22/2006 6:45:59 AM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: wita

"I can't recall houses with burglar bars that didn't have them on the doors as well, and one isn't going to just break those kind in."

The cops don't break "in" the security-barred door, they rip the door out of it's casing and off the house using a hook, chain and truck.


62 posted on 11/22/2006 6:47:46 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: wideawake

>>If it were really about money to pay government employees, then recreational narcotics would be legal and sold by a state monopoly at very profitable margins.<<

I don't think so, because the money would then go to DIFFERENT government employees. People are protecting their own jobs, not trying to jus keep jobs in government.


63 posted on 11/22/2006 6:49:18 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: jch10

>>There must have been evidence of some kind that illegal activities were taking place there.<<

Yes, the police said they were acting on a "tip".

There is evidence, and then there is "evidence".


64 posted on 11/22/2006 6:50:20 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: libstripper

"In any one of these cases the police ought to check the local title records to see who owns the house and their own records to see if any disturbances or other unusual activity have been reported before trying to break in to the house. If the records check reveals nothing out of the ordinary, they ought to knock on the door during day light hours and properly identify themselves before attempting to enter, even if it did mean a few druggies would be able to destroy the evidence. In this case the woman probably heard the attempted forcible entry, feared for her life, and began shooting. The same thing could happen to anyone who lives alone and keeps a loaded weapon for personal protection."

Well said, and bears repeating. It would be different if there were a violent felon hiding inside or it was a hostage situation. This should have simply been an investigation. Appears to be very poor judgment excercised by the cops again in their zealous and very costly war on drugs. More collateral damage...


65 posted on 11/22/2006 6:50:22 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Sprite518

I really don't believe the woman was an innocent. More to this story than is written.


66 posted on 11/22/2006 6:52:04 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: gondramB

I'm with you on that. We don't know a lot of stuff. I am willing to discuss suspicions, but anybody that thinks they have the answer to this at this point is just not firing on all cylinders.

I have an opinion, but it is based on such scant evidence that it could change at the drop of a hat.


67 posted on 11/22/2006 6:52:12 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: Sprite518

another "botched" no-knock raid, wonderful.

as someone remarked on another thread, if she had a dog they could've shot, it would be the icing on the cake.


68 posted on 11/22/2006 6:56:37 AM PST by fnord (dachshunds with erections can't climb stairs)
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To: Dustbunny
I really don't believe the woman was an innocent. More to this story than is written

That's most likely the reality. I'm all for not giving police the benefit of the doubt, especially on drug raids...

but the MSM just delights in stirring up trouble and controversy so they can bump their own ratings and circulation, and sadly, we FReepers often get duped into defending a position based solely on some "journalist's" blarney.

69 posted on 11/22/2006 6:57:14 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: RobRoy

Well we can all take comfort in knowing that the Black Panthers have now arrived on the scene so we will no doubt get an unbiased assessment. /s

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=1563943&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1


70 posted on 11/22/2006 6:58:12 AM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: gondramB
One thing I'd hate to get lost in my post is the hope for a full recovery by the officers and respect for a terribly, terribly difficult job.

They got assigned to go into this house - the door was fortified, they had trouble getting in and got shot at. Then they killed an apparently innocent person. I feel for them. I pray for them.

I hope for a full recovery so they can stand trial for negligent homicide.

Plain clothes??? For a dynamic entry??? In a rough neighborhood??? ARE .. YOU .. KIDDING .. ME???

The woman in this case is not the "perpetrator," she is the victim.

71 posted on 11/22/2006 7:01:44 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: gondramB

It just hit me to ask this: was this woman black?


72 posted on 11/22/2006 7:03:00 AM PST by RobRoy
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To: proud_yank

I am getting really concerned about these types of stories.

I read at least one a week, where cops dressed up like burglars (or a military squadron) kick in somebody's door and shoot an innocent person. This has happened here several times, once an elderly man was shot in Tennessee when cops kicked down his door (wrong address) in the middle of the night and he jumped out of bed and grabbed a gun to defend himself.Usually, if there is a dog present, it is also shot.

I don't know if this woman was innocent, but I suspect it is another such case.

The cops can't seem to arrest illegal aliens (many violent criminals) that are crawling that area, but they have time for this? I realize cops have a dangerous job, but could they not have STAKED out that house to see who was there, coming and going?



73 posted on 11/22/2006 7:03:38 AM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: mvpel

As I mentioned above, I am trying to keep an open mind.


74 posted on 11/22/2006 7:07:42 AM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: Sprite518
This is what happens when you put a gun in the hands of the wrong person.

These poop headed police should be nominated for the Barney fife Award and issued gns with no bullets in the chambers. What a pack of fools.

Way to go Grandma. Your efforts will be rewarded and I hope your family will sue the Atlanta Cops for all they're worth!

75 posted on 11/22/2006 7:11:51 AM PST by Young Werther
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To: RobRoy

>>It just hit me to ask this: was this woman black?<<

Yes she was. All of the neighbors that were interviewed were black.


76 posted on 11/22/2006 7:12:30 AM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: gondramB

How about the cops, were they white or black?


77 posted on 11/22/2006 7:15:05 AM PST by razorback-bert (I met Bill Clinton once but he didn?t really talk ? he was hitting on my wife)
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To: razorback-bert

>>How about the cops, were they white or black?<<

One of the oddities of this case is that they have not released the names or other information of the policemen - Atlanta is usually quick to get wounded police names out for well wishers and to respond to media requests.


78 posted on 11/22/2006 7:19:38 AM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: ARE SOLE
She died again????! They just killed her one more time, too, according to the latest post this morning on FR.
79 posted on 11/22/2006 7:20:19 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: girlangler

"I am getting really concerned about these types of stories."

Ditto. I have close friend who had a not so friendly encounter with plain clothes cops on his property in the dead of night. He owns a landscaping business, and has lots of trucks and equipment that he stores next to his property.

It seems that one of his workers backed a truck into a customer's car, and just left. No injuries, just property damage. His worker never told the boss, my friend. Anyway, in the dead of night, my friend heard people poking around his equipment. Fearing that he was going to have equipment ripped off again, he threw on the outside floodlights and walked out with his handy bat. He met the cops, in plain clothes, with guns drawn. They were investigating the crime. My friend could have easily been shot if he had a shotgun in hand.

And, the story ended like this: His insurance paid for the damage to the customer's property, and he fired the worker.


80 posted on 11/22/2006 9:21:26 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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