[Ditto]

Scott was thinking militarily that the Fort could no possible be reinforced or defended from land attack. Lincoln had to think on a higher level and surrender would only legitimize the Rebellion. Now what was Jeff Davis thinking when he gave the order to open fire?

And I find it very interesting that as CiC you would cave in to Castro so easily. Are you really Jimmy Carter?

[spacecowboynj]

Well, first off ditto, I said I don't know by what arrangement we have troops on Cuban soil. I have no clue, but I'll check it out since you seem to want to debate that. So calm down and back away gently from what you think I would or what not do, because even I don't know due to lack of details.

Secondly, who fired the first shots of the Civil War is pretty moot compared to who started it. Sorta like faulting Poland if they shot the first shots of WWII because Germany sent battleships and soldiers to a Polish fort.

The Civil War was started by Lincoln and his and the Republican Party's northern industrial interests. Lincoln said to hell with slavery, he didn't care about it and wouldn't do anything about it, but he was going to collect those tariffs.