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The author overstates the case a bit, understandable given his background. As to Grant's own family was involved in cotton speculation (as well as owning slaves), so perhaps he considered Jewish traders to be competition it's my understanding Grant's father's partner was Jewish, and that signing the ban, if Grant was aware of it, was a way of getting rid of an embarrassing situation, his own father trading in cotton.
1 posted on 11/21/2006 5:23:11 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Wow. Civil war thread sure brings back memories. Where's old Walt and the gang? Let's brawl! :-P


2 posted on 11/21/2006 5:24:16 AM PST by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Alouette

ping


3 posted on 11/21/2006 5:25:49 AM PST by SJackson (A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
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Hey, Jews do get blamed for everything. Even the Civil War. Of course, anti-Semites would think Grant was a great guy for doing this.


5 posted on 11/21/2006 5:39:30 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: SJackson

Think the anti-war stuff is bad now? - just read what happened in Northern cities and how Lincoln was treated during the civil war...


6 posted on 11/21/2006 5:39:31 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SJackson

Good grief. How far are they going to dig to keep this up? One hundred-forty years ago. What's the connection to today?


8 posted on 11/21/2006 5:44:09 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Dixie ping!

Deo Vindice!


9 posted on 11/21/2006 5:44:16 AM PST by RebelBanker (It is, however somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.)
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To: SJackson

Did Mel Gibson ever play a Damn Yankee General?


12 posted on 11/21/2006 5:51:27 AM PST by DogBarkTree (The United States failure to act against Iran will be seen as weakness throughout the Muslim world.)
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bump


13 posted on 11/21/2006 5:53:50 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; albyjimc2; Alexander Rubin; ...
General Orders #11

Basically, some war profiteers were kicked out and some innocent people were inconvenienced. Nobody was killed, nobody was hurt. The order rescinded after 2 weeks.

All in all, is this is "America's worst Anti-Jewish action" then the U.S. has a pretty damn good track record.

Mr. Regenstein & I had a rather acrimonious email argument over this. But what can I say, I am a "Damn Yankee"

FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

15 posted on 11/21/2006 5:58:30 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 145-150)
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Although the article does not say so, Secretary Benjamin was a Jew. He was secretary of war, state and attorney general at different times. He lived in a house in Richmond not far from where I live and sit now.

He fled to England after the war and became to foremost expert on contract law in the English speaking world. His "Benjamin on Contracts" can still be found in most law libraries.

See http://www.amazon.com/Judah-P-Benjamin-Jewish-Confederate/dp/5557104364

http://www.amazon.ca/Judah-P-Benjamin-Eli-Evans/dp/0029099110


18 posted on 11/21/2006 6:01:52 AM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey
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Dixie bump


19 posted on 11/21/2006 6:01:53 AM PST by JamesP81 (Rights must be enforced; rights that you're not allowed to enforce are rights that you don't have.)
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Well, with such "progressive" lights as Barak Obama, admitting that the Emancipation Proclamation was purely a military document, maybe southerners will begin to get a slightly more fair historical treatment. Those of us with Confederate ancestors can only hope. One of the oldest houses of worship in Greensboro, NC, where I am, is a synagogue.


23 posted on 11/21/2006 6:09:31 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Oh heck, I bet old Ulysses was just snockered. He probably didn't even remember issuing the order in the morning, and then he was just too embarrassed to rescind it. (Aw c'm ON guys, I didn't say THAT, did I? Anybody got an Alka-Selzer or something? Hey, Corporal, could you just be a little quieter when you breathe? My head hurts something awful here ...)
25 posted on 11/21/2006 6:16:32 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Now we are all Massoud)
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Ping. Interesting stuff


26 posted on 11/21/2006 6:25:07 AM PST by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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a few were sent to prison

I don't know of any who were sent to prison. Some were forced to stay overnight at flophouse hotels.

This was probably the lamest pogrom EVER.

29 posted on 11/21/2006 6:37:05 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 145-150)
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Attempts to make the Slaver Regime look good are bound to fail. Attempts to dispagage those who fought to save the Union are also bound to fail. Though they are always good for a few laughs at such folly.


30 posted on 11/21/2006 6:38:51 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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We note that almost every liberal Jewish person we encounter equates the Confederate flag with anti-semitism. When you try to explain the historical truth of the matter they do not even listen. As for Judah P. Benjamin, he fled to the U.K. and became a very successful barrister.


34 posted on 11/21/2006 7:05:02 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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One of the effects of the defeat of the South and the subsequent Reconstruction was the fall of the Southern plantation and merchant class from power. The post-Reconstruction Southern states reacted with extreme bitterness against their defeat and the subsequent long economic depression of the region that lingered on until World War II. Post-reconstruction Southern politics became more democratic (at least for whites), as the result of the dilution of planter and merchant dominance.

In this atmosphere, scapegoating reared its head. Populists such as Tom Watson in Georgia switched from themes of economic reforms similar to those championed by Northern and Western Populists to viciousness toward the former slaves. Strict segregation laws became the norm after 1890, and blacks were effectively disenfranchised in the same period. Free lance vigilantes and, after 1920, the revived Ku Klux Klan engaged in a reign of terror against blacks, with several thousand lynchings between 1880 and 1930 (although some lynchings took places in such un-Southern locales as Wilmington, Delaware and Duluth, Minnesota). In some upland areas of the South (and the Midwest and West), there was ethnic cleansing of blacks from small towns where they had settled after the Civil War. The movie, Rosewood, documents one of the most extreme examples of expelling African-Americans in Florida during the 1920s.

Anti-Semitism also reared its ugly head in the South via the same Populist movement that imposed segregation and maltreatment of black Southerners. Tom Watson, Theodore Bilbo, and others recycled the anti-Semitic arguments of Nordic supremacists. The Klan of the 1920s and the 1960s repeated much of the same rhetoric against Jews as would have been found in Nazi propaganda. The lynching of Leo Frank in Georgia is evidence of the anti-Semitic animosity in the South in the Populist era.

Contrary to the opinions of many Northerners, as well as the romanticism of many Southerners, racism and anti-Semitism were far stronger and widespread in the post-Reconstruction South than had been the case in the antebellum era.

35 posted on 11/21/2006 7:06:59 AM PST by Wallace T.
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Wow, the Civil War [insert your preferred euphemism here: __________________] is a deep, deep mine. Ev Ehrlich has a hilarious take on this episode in Grant Speaks.
36 posted on 11/21/2006 7:11:14 AM PST by redbaiter
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Perhaps Grant issued the order as Sherman was apparently a vicious anti-Semite, equating Jews with Newspapermen and prostitutes.

Its ironic that Jews had such a good relationship with anti-bellum southerners and after the war they became the objects of attack by the KKK along with blacks and Catholics.


37 posted on 11/21/2006 7:15:31 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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