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"Borrowing" Wireless Connection
Me ^ | 2006-11-18 | Me

Posted on 11/18/2006 8:00:00 AM PST by wesley_windam-price

Hi there: When I am on the road, I often "borrow" wireless connection on unsecured networks. I am not doing anything malicious but is there a danger of the host network compromising my computer, such as accessing my files or capturing passwords when I enter them in on the browser.

Thanks for any info you can offer.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: computer; wireless
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1 posted on 11/18/2006 8:00:02 AM PST by wesley_windam-price
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To: wesley_windam-price

I'd say that about sums it up.


2 posted on 11/18/2006 8:02:04 AM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: wesley_windam-price
You get what you pay for, and I wouldn't be surprised to find that more and more people are setting up unsecured WiFi ports near very public places in order to do just that, captore passwords and other personal information.

You want free, don't go to your banking site when you're stealing service.

3 posted on 11/18/2006 8:04:38 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: wesley_windam-price

Yes, they could access your Windows shared folders if you have it enabled over TCP/IP (and most everyone does).

However, normally you'll need your Windows password for that, provided you have one.

And yes, they can write a proxy server which will capture all incoming traffic.


BUT... few will do this. Few even know how. If you connect to a router named "netgear" or "linksys" or "default," 999 out of 1000 of them will be a basic, unconfigured, unsecured router where the owner doesn't know enough to enable security, let alone steal passwords.


4 posted on 11/18/2006 8:06:38 AM PST by Dan Nunn
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To: wesley_windam-price
...is there a danger...

The danger is always there when you are "connected." Somewhat depends on what protection you normally use.

5 posted on 11/18/2006 8:07:35 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: wesley_windam-price
Then, there's the legal issue, if you're borrowing wireless Internet service in Florida:
Wi-Fi cloaks a new breed of intruder
6 posted on 11/18/2006 8:09:14 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: wesley_windam-price

Change your accounts now. Your identity has already been stolen.


7 posted on 11/18/2006 8:09:37 AM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: wesley_windam-price

And once they have captured the MAC address of your computer's wireless card, they will be able to tell each time you come back.


8 posted on 11/18/2006 8:12:02 AM PST by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: wesley_windam-price

I believe it depends on your connection mode. Wifi encryption is decoded at the access point and could be intercepted, but secure web pages (https) and VPN connections should be relatively safe.


9 posted on 11/18/2006 8:15:02 AM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: wesley_windam-price
We also discussed the issue here before:
Hey Neighbor, Stop Piggybacking on My Wireless (NY Times March 5, 2006)
10 posted on 11/18/2006 8:15:04 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: wesley_windam-price
I set up a little wireless network so I could roam around the house with my laptop and enjoy the Internet on the front porch & etc. When I got to the part in the manual about encryption keys, I figured I was out of my depth and just left the network unsecured. I live in a densely populated area, however, and after awhile, I noticed that my IP service was getting very slow, and odd messages about IP conflicts would pop up from time to time. It finally occurred to me that perhaps I was providing Internet service to the whole neighborhood, and so I bought a "wired" router" (I had to look hard to find one) and set up ethernet connections in the various rooms and on the porch, then I bought a variety of cables in assorted lengths.

I have to say this has been a big success: my IP service is once again blazing fast, and no more do I get those odd pop-ups. Oh yeah -- and this is the truth -- over the next few weeks I noticed the Cox Cable truck making several visits to my neighbors.

11 posted on 11/18/2006 8:19:05 AM PST by PUGACHEV
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I'm not savvy enough to have wireless, but I'm curious: Can the one who's "borrowing" the service steal info from the one he's "borrowing from"?
12 posted on 11/18/2006 8:23:29 AM PST by bannie
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To: bannie

I've been told they can, but I can't say how.


13 posted on 11/18/2006 8:25:11 AM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: wesley_windam-price

Stop stealing. It isn't right.


14 posted on 11/18/2006 8:25:28 AM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: PUGACHEV

If they can damage the one from whom they're borrowing, it's not "borrowing." :-( That's stealing.


15 posted on 11/18/2006 8:26:39 AM PST by bannie
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To: bannie

As long as you have physical control over the router or access point, you can see everything coming through. Whether it actually means anything to you (because it's encrypted) is a different story.

With the right tools, yes.


16 posted on 11/18/2006 8:29:59 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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Guess I'll just stay my archaic, li'l old wired-in self.


17 posted on 11/18/2006 8:32:40 AM PST by bannie
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To: bannie

Yes. As I said before, File Sharing is sometimes enabled on computers for one reason or another. Try this: (actually don't try this, this breaks laws in many states and is generally not a nice thing to do)

Find out your IP address (by right-clicking the icon in your Taskbar and selecting Status, then click the Support tab)

IPs are usually assigned sequentially. So, if yours is 192.168.1.103, chances are there are (or were) a 192.168.1.100, 101, 102 and maybe 104.

Knowing this, go to Start and click on Run. In the box, type "\\192.168.0.101" without the quotes. The \\'s are the backward slashes, usually above the enter key. The 192.168.1.101 is the IP address, substituted with whichever.

It's that easy to get information, provided they don't password protect it, and file sharing is on.
SO, to everyone else watching, secure your networks! Give your Windows accounts passwords!


18 posted on 11/18/2006 8:34:52 AM PST by Dan Nunn
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To: bannie

As long as your router (connection point to another network, such as your ISP's network) is secured, you will probably be fine...unless you install spyware, adware, etc. :P


19 posted on 11/18/2006 8:44:57 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: wesley_windam-price

One of the reasons I went with hard wire in my house was to avoid these possibilities.


20 posted on 11/18/2006 9:05:41 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Note: Sell Diebold Stock.................NOW!!)
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