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VANITY: Rudy Guliani...a Clinton Liberal

Posted on 11/13/2006 8:11:31 PM PST by Old_Mil

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To: Old_Mil

I'll go further, if W. lets the liberals bulldoze him into signing everything likely to be on their wish list, I'm finished with what the GOP has become. I fully expect a bunch of backroom tradeoffs, and the loss of much of the ground we've gained.
I'm a conservative, no more voting for pretenders!


41 posted on 11/13/2006 9:00:58 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (MAY I DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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To: Old_Mil

Why don't you post your vanity during the 2008 primaries? Look, I'm not too big on Rudy either, but the man deserves a primary hearing. It's way too early to start fussing over 2008 and handwringing over who should be President. Enough! Just let events play out as they should and state your case then. Doing it now is ridiculous. Some of you guys clearly need a vacation.


42 posted on 11/13/2006 9:03:22 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: Old_Mil

BTW, the Constitution Party is a joke. Even the Libertarian Party is bigger ROFL


43 posted on 11/13/2006 9:06:28 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: dirtboy

BTTT


44 posted on 11/13/2006 9:06:42 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: Old_Mil
You're a dumbass.


45 posted on 11/13/2006 9:09:31 PM PST by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: Old_Mil
Gun control

Guns were already banned in NYC years before Rudy took office. Besides, Rudy cracked down on the gang-banging felons toting guns.

Gay marriage

NYC is a very liberal, diverse, tolerant city. It isn't Peoria. There are lots of homosexuals in NYC. It would be un-New York like to disparage them. It is what it is and no conservative is going to change the city.

Affirmative action

I don't recall Rudy ever speaking out in favor of affirmative action

School prayer

This is a local issue not a national one.

46 posted on 11/13/2006 9:13:57 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"Some of you guys clearly need a vacation."



I agree- wish everyone would stop and take a deep breathe.

Of course I would prefer a true conservative to win our nomination. But if the rest of the country doesn't understand what that means because they don't follow politics like I do, and they go for Guliani, I will support him whole heartedly. At least he will try to prevent another terrorist attack. He was there, he knows the stakes.



47 posted on 11/13/2006 9:16:35 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: ToastedHead

I used to carp on Rudy too. But then I realized how ridiculous and petty I sounded. The 2008 elections are light-years away. Why should I worry about something I have no control over other than to cast my vote?


48 posted on 11/13/2006 9:20:57 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: Old_Mil

Rudy is no conservative. Rudy is a liberal to his political core.

49 posted on 11/13/2006 9:51:50 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Old_Mil
Do not forget that Rudy is on CSPAN tape screaming worse than Dean about Florida gun shops selling legal weapons.

Plus can you trust any person elected from the states that give the Senate such "great" people as scummer and hitlery.
Same goes for romney J Fing Kerry and SS Oldsmobile!
50 posted on 11/13/2006 9:53:06 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Don't forget that Rudy said that if his daughter wanted to kill his grandchild he'd give her the money to get it done.


51 posted on 11/13/2006 9:55:55 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: Old_Mil
...It's important that this information is out there. Rudy Guliani is a Clinton liberal and frankly would be no better than the Hildebeest as President.

He'd be a whole lot better than McKook.

52 posted on 11/13/2006 10:24:42 PM PST by freespirited (The MSM is the root of all evil.)
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To: TommyDale; Liz

Ping


53 posted on 11/13/2006 10:44:16 PM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: Old_Mil
>> Well, the above information makes it impossible to cast an uninformed one for Rudy.

It's completely valid to surface his record; however, the Clinton association doesn't cut it. He turned NYC around at a very low point in it's history; something that's hard to envision a liberal pulling off. Giuliani prosecuted cases involving serious fellows, and also indicted Marc Rich who, oddly enough, was later pardoned by Bill Clinton.

As the article points out, he's certainly not the Conservative many of us are hoping for.
54 posted on 11/13/2006 11:12:34 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: AmishDude
Constipation partyite.

In all flame wars, I've never heard that one before...

55 posted on 11/14/2006 12:25:02 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: Gene Eric

NYC is NYC, you couldn't pay most of us enough to live there, to Hell with what Rudy did there, please keep him there!
The world I live in bears so little resemblence to NYC that we might as well be on different planets, and I prefer it that way.


56 posted on 11/14/2006 12:27:49 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (MAY I DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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To: Old_Mil

I don't care what names I get called, but so far HE is who I'm voting for in the Primaries unless Barbour or someone else gets in.


57 posted on 11/14/2006 1:31:01 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: freespirited
He'd be a whole lot better than McKook.

This is a very serious question. On a whole host of issues, McCain is far more conservative than Guiliani, but I have to agree. McCain's a very dangerous person who would explode under the kind of media barrage that a president is subject to.

I'm not fond of Guiliani, I don't think he'd expend any capital for constitutionalist judges (I think he'd rather find common-sense, wise jurists...like himself) and despite his fondness for the social left, it's not that he'd be a activist leftist, but he wouldn't fight any of the wacky new ideas that they come up with.

That being said, McCrazy is just dangerous.

58 posted on 11/14/2006 5:47:46 AM PST by AmishDude (Libertarians didn't lose it for us. They're losers who work against what they claim to want.)
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To: MotleyGirl70; Liz

Thanks for the ping, MotleyGirl70!


59 posted on 11/14/2006 5:53:26 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
NYC is a very liberal, diverse, tolerant city. It isn't Peoria. There are lots of homosexuals in NYC. It would be un-New York like to disparage them. It is what it is and no conservative is going to change the city.

I had two cousins where moved to NY City. No one here knew either were gay. That is why they moved there so they could openly practice their "gayness." Both came home in body bags, dead from AIDS. Yup, NY City is great. I visited there once coming back from a tour in Germany. You can have it. It is a dump in my opinion.

60 posted on 11/14/2006 5:53:59 AM PST by RetiredArmy (A second civil war is coming to the USA. It will be worse than the first.)
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