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Will Nifong go after bloggers?
November 8, 2006

Posted on 11/08/2006 2:41:16 PM PST by CondorFlight

Now that the election is over and this can't be considered just an election ploy :

Rumors are said to have been circulating in Durham to the effect that Nifong might consider (legally) going after a couple of bloggers; that if he deals with a couple of them the rest will be intimidated and fade away.

This is just a heads up; so that if anything untoward happens, everyone will know about it in advance and be able to make the connection. The rumors are well-sourced.


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To: gopheraj

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221 posted on 11/11/2006 5:42:08 AM PST by gopheraj
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To: toldyou

Will there be more reports like Yolanda Haynes' now that the election is over?


222 posted on 11/11/2006 5:51:46 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

Whether there are or not, Nifong will continue this charade at least until the Christmas break. At this point he will pursue it even if the FA admits to her lies. What we are seeing is the acting out of a sociopath/psychopath. Nifong reminds me of all those evil characters in movies like Walking Tall, Road House, etc. Good luck to the people of Durham, you are going to need it.


223 posted on 11/11/2006 6:16:57 AM PST by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: maggief
KC Johnson started his entry on this article w/ the words "With Nifong safely elected, today's Herald-Sun (in the lowest circulation edition of the week, Saturday) for the first time casts skepticism on the accuser's story. "

Will there be more reports like Yolanda Haynes' now that the election is over?

224 posted on 11/11/2006 6:17:29 AM PST by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: Ready4Freddy; bjc

What's next? Will the AV recant her story, claiming dependence on the "reported" substances, Flexeril and alcohol, due to chronic back pain? After all, "Mother, dancer, accuser," "sex worker," must still be played the "victim." Will Nifong cut a deal, treatment?

The next hearing is scheduled for December 15. Will the case continue beyond that date?


225 posted on 11/11/2006 6:46:31 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

Duh.....I just wasn't thinking. Makes absolute sense! And I was curious why, after all these many months, the fear and frustration experienced by the boys and their families, plus $$$$$$ spent on attorneys, why people are speaking up now.

Thanks, maaggief!


226 posted on 11/11/2006 7:06:44 AM PST by toldyou
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To: toldyou
Is Yolanda speaking up now or is it being reported now?

"We had to drag her out on the gravel," she said. "She was heavy. It took four or five of us to carry her outside. She was dead weight. That's how passed out she was. She never woke up. We could have put the scratches on her. That could be how she got them."

Did the H-S try to interview the others that carried her outside? Who are the "we?"
227 posted on 11/11/2006 7:12:57 AM PST by maggief
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To: abb
What a screwed up place Durham has become. Over the course of this case my daughter has eliminated Duke from her list of possible colleges...Duke was in first place because it offers the degree she hopes to seek.

I have to admit to being relieved she (and our money) won't be going anywhere near Durham.

228 posted on 11/11/2006 7:14:15 AM PST by sweet_diane ("They hate us 'cause they ain't us.")
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To: maggief
Hey maggief. I saw some good comments on one blog re: 'what happens next', I'll post or send you a link when I find it again.

Several comments suggested that Nifong needs an 'event', something supposedly new, to support dropping the case. I'm not sure I see that happening.

I suspect that the 12/15 hearing will have continued wrangling over tardy discovery, and there will be another hearing set for mid-late January.

229 posted on 11/11/2006 7:34:01 AM PST by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: sweet_diane
What a screwed up place Durham has become. Over the course of this case my daughter has eliminated Duke from her list of possible colleges...Duke was in first place because it offers the degree she hopes to seek. I have to admit to being relieved she (and our money) won't be going anywhere near Durham.

You are, of course, free to send her wherever you choose but making a college decision based on this case is a little shallow in my opinion. There are town-gown conflicts in many cities, large and small in this country. There is also very serious crime- I have a friend with a son at the University of San Diego. Some gang members came in with guns and raped 2 girls in front of 2 boys that were in the apartment. The girls were friends of my friend's son. This was about a month ago in an apartment along Mission Beach. My point is that unless you choose to "home school" her for college, there are risks. Frankly, I think Durham could be a better place for students as the light of truth has been shined on it directly. A lot of stuff is still being swept under the rug in other locales.

230 posted on 11/11/2006 7:42:57 AM PST by luv2ski
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To: luv2ski; maggief; abb; sweet_diane
Good points, luvvy (did you see the news on Basso/DSC, btw?). Bear in mind that the Gang of 88 should not be taken as the attitude of the Duke faculty as a whole. A member of the faculty reminds us of that here:

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Anonymous said...

Unfortunately the group of faculty and “other” who signed the notorious “We Are Listening” letter is still being taken to represent the majority of Duke faculty, not a small minority. It may be useful to add one further detail concerning mention, in the last paragraph of the letter, of “departments and programs signing onto this ad.” When I found that my own department had been included without any discussion among its members, I wrote to the colleague who had taken this initiative:

I'm not at this point interested in inaugurating a grand departmental controversy, but after reflection I do feel compelled to raise a small point of conscience. ...I managed to miss the Chronicle ad in which the department was subscribed as supporting the "We Are Listening" advertisement, along with an available listing (I am told) of members of the department. I have seen a reproduction of the statement in the Chronicle online edition, and would never have wished to subscribe to the posture represented there. I gather that you were instrumental in including all of us, willy nillly, in this statement, which in effect robbed each member of the department of the right to choose: in effect, cancelling our individuality. This is a serious matter, as you will recognize. The phrase "totalitarian liberalism" comes to mind, which is every bit as dangerous as the neo-racist trend among blacks to privilege group entitlement seeking group revenge over the earlier effort to achieve equal justice for all. You might Google Thomas Sowell (a black, conservative senior fellow at the Hoover Institute) for his trenchant column on just this.... To set the record straight, would your intemperate colleagues in promoting this ad consider publishing a list of those who were included in it without their consent? Or must I too cry, "Rape, rape!"

My letter was received coldly, and there was no response to my final suggestion.

And although the impression of faculty hostility towards the Lacrosse team is still being taken to represent a general attitude, I can at least speak for myself. In some forty-five years of teaching at Duke I’ve known more Lacrosse players than participants in any other sport on campus, and have found them good students and, in some cases, good friends; several have distinguished themselves in remarkable ways both while in my classes (one learned to sightread the difficult Latin of the concluding books of St Augustine’s Confessions with breathtaking facility) and afterwards (a student early on joined the Peace Corps, learned to speak Arabic, and has more recently served as a principal executive of a major New England investment fund). I don’t imagine that mine is an isolated experience, and I regret that the intemperance of a few has been taken to represent the many.

9:33 AM
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Link - http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/2006/11/group-of-88-statement.html#8167426882774395900

231 posted on 11/11/2006 7:57:08 AM PST by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: abb

Haynes said detailed records were kept about which dancers performed on any given night, and she agreed the accuser was present on March 23, 24 and 25.

During her performances on those nights, the woman never said anything about being raped 10 days earlier, Haynes said.

"After that, we [have] never seen her no more," she added.

Haynes said she never saw the accuser drink an alcoholic beverage or take drugs, and she was unable to explain why the woman frequently passed out.



This is the Herald-Sun. Never forget. On first read it reads good for the defense until you cometo the passage above.

Did Yolanda make that statement to discredit HP Thomas or counter the claims that Precious is still dancing? Is she a "plant"?

The Herald-Sun will never stop being Nifong's butt wipe.


232 posted on 11/11/2006 9:39:44 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
I must be missing something. Are you referring to her statement that she never saw the accuser take drugs or drink? That the accuser drinks and takes Flexeril is not in question. She admitted that in her own statement to the DPD.
233 posted on 11/11/2006 10:08:30 AM PST by luv2ski
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To: luv2ski

I take it to mean Yolanda is saying she hasn't seen Precious at the since March 23,24 and 25.



".....she agreed the accuser was present on March 23, 24 and 25.

During her performances on those nights, the woman never said anything about being raped 10 days earlier, Haynes said.

"After that, we [have] never seen her no more," she added.
"



234 posted on 11/11/2006 11:21:37 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: xoxoxox

King's words live on a generation later [What makes Durham tick]

Author: Ben Stocking; Staff Writer, N&O, January 15, 1996

DURHAM - "We just want to be free."

Vivian McCoy can still hear those words ringing in her ears, and she can still see the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. standing before the altar of the old White Rock Baptist Church as he said them in his rich, dignified voice.

It was Feb. 16, 1960, just two weeks after the start of the historic lunch counter sit-ins in Greensboro. The protests had spread to downtown Durham, where McCoy and other young students picketed and held sit-ins at the lunch counters of Woolworth's, Walgreen's and the old Kress five-and-dime.

King had come to Durham to give the protesters inspiration, and he had drawn a tremendous crowd. More than a thousand people jammed the church, spilling out the front door, into the courtyard and down into the basement, where they listened to his voice over loudspeakers.

"We just want to be free."

Many of the people who were there that night gather each year on Martin Luther King Jr. Day to reminisce about the civil rights struggle and their role in it.

When they meet again in Durham today to pay homage to King, chances are good that they will talk about the day he came to White Rock, and the inspiration he gave them.

McCoy was still a high school student when King came to town. When she saw him, she felt as if she had seen another Moses, a being sent by God.

She didn't move while King was speaking.

"My eyes were glued to him," she recalls. "You could hear a pin drop in that church when his speech began."

As King went on, hitting his high points, inspiring the crowd, amens and hallelujahs rang out.

"Segregated eating facilities are the Negro's burden and America's shame," King intoned.

McCoy and her peers had dedicated themselves to ending that segregation.

They would meet each morning at St. Joseph's AME Church, where they would map strategy, pray and sing.

Then they would head downtown to the lunch counters, where they would be greeted by the taunts and jeers of angry whites.

McCoy, now an administrator at Duke Hospital, remembers them spitting at her. One young man poured a cup of hot coffee on her lap as she sat at the Woolworth's lunch counter.

She remained erect and silent as the coffee seeped through her clothes. She had taken to heart King's teachings about nonviolent resistance.

Those teachings were embodied in a code of ethics laid out for the students by Floyd McKissick Sr., a friend, classmate and colleague of King's. McKissick, a Durham lawyer, met with the students every day and every night to go over tactics and strategy and give them encouragement.

It was McKissick who arranged King's visit to White Rock.

John Edwards, then a student at Durham Business College, escorted King on a tour of downtown Durham that afternoon.

They took him to the lunch counter at Woolworth's. A group of photographers and reporters followed King as he made his way around town.

As they snapped photos of King and his lieutenant, Ralph Abernathy, an angry store manager demanded that they leave. Another store employee lunged at one of the cameramen, and the photographers fled from the store.

According to an account in The News & Observer, one Woolworth's employee chased a photographer from a Durham newspaper for nearly a block.

King and his entourage immediately left the scene.

That afternoon, King met with Edwards and several other students at McKissick's office on Main Street.

"His visit made a lot of difference," says Edwards, 53, who owns a courier service in Durham. "It was the beginning of the movement, and we knew what he had been through in Montgomery with the bus boycott. He told us to stick with it. He told us it wouldn't be easy, but that we could do it."

John Fleming, now a retired Shaw University professor, was helping to organize similar protests in Raleigh at the time.

He went to White Rock to hear King speak that day. Fleming, 79, remembers King's rhythmical, poetical cadence. His speech sounded almost songlike.

"He knew African-American people, especially African-American church people, and he knew how to reach them," Fleming says. "He told us that we all must be willing to make some sacrifices if we were going to gain our freedom."

Fleming remembers King borrowing a phrase from Victor Hugo: There is nothing so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

"King's thesis was that the time had come for African Americans in the South to have the liberty and the freedom and all of the things that were in the Constitution," Fleming says.

"The time had come for black people to stand up and be counted and demand their rights."

Thirty-six years later, Fleming sees how far his people have come in their struggle to attain those rights. But he is keenly aware of how much farther they have to go before all of King's dreams are truly fulfilled.

Too many blacks remain mired in poverty, he says, and too many are in prison. Not enough African Americans have ascended to the peak of the corporate world. And many of the gains of the civil rights years - from minority scholarships to the Voting Rights Act - are under political assault.

Over the years, Fleming has talked to his 9-year-old granddaughter, Sunni Fleming, about the meaning of the civil rights era. If he talks to her on King Day, he knows what he will tell her.

"Martin Luther King was an honest man. He had strong convictions, and he was willing to sacrifice for them. One of the reasons that he died in Memphis, Tennessee, was that he was there to help the underdogs. We must never forget a leader like that.

"As you grow up, you must think about what contributions you can make to improve existing conditions. You must have a sense of others - that there are people who are less fortunate than us, and we must do what we can to help raise them up."

* McKissick and King were classmates. Durham has quite a civil rights legacy to uphold.


235 posted on 11/11/2006 11:34:39 AM PST by xoxoxox
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Here's a half-truth:

The dancer reportedly tested negative for controlled substances not long after the alleged rape.

A hair sample was tested for date rape drugs and found negative. She was not given a general screen for controlled substances.

236 posted on 11/11/2006 12:05:00 PM PST by Ken H
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To: xoxoxox

Some of King's words live. They like to forget stuff like this.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. - Martin Luther King Jr.


237 posted on 11/11/2006 12:25:24 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Mike Nifong will not drop this case until he has a verdict from a jury. Once the case is adjudicated the state bar and others will start their proceedings against him. The case continuing is the only shield he has against those proceedings. If he can drag it out long enough, he feels, maybe the outrage will die down. Anyway, the half of Durham that voted for him will reward him for carrying it out to he bitter end and punish him if he drops it for any reason .


238 posted on 11/11/2006 1:43:25 PM PST by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: abb

More and more, Liefong reminds me of Cpt. Quig.


239 posted on 11/11/2006 1:51:54 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Locomotive Breath

But how will they punish him? The job is his for four years, is that correct? Much can happen in that time... even a new and better job. [read: payoff]


240 posted on 11/11/2006 2:16:43 PM PST by Dukie07
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