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Are we allowed to say it now?
None | 11/8/06 | dangus

Posted on 11/07/2006 11:20:16 PM PST by dangus

Are we allowed to say it now? Can we drop the happy warrior schtick? In the past six years, we've seen the deficit explode like never before in the history of the country. A flaming bra-burner nominated to the Supreme Court, only to be replaced by a (hopefully) stealth conservative. The most inept State Department in the history of the United States. (Clinton's wasn't incompetent; they were flat-out fifth columnists.) 20 million new illegal aliens, and barely-contained glee that the election-day losses mean we can welcome another 50 million in.

And I hate to say this, but when we won the war in Iraq, I was praying for my friend who was an MP, fearing for his safety in the dangerous house-to-house searches. And then they never came. So I put joyful trust that the military didn't need to do such a dangerous task. Then came the insurgency. And bold optimism. And more violence. And more bold optimism. But, um, after 3,000 of America's finest dead, it becomes plainly apparent that Rummy and Bush simply didn't realize that disarming the terrorists was necessary.

So can we say it now?

That Bush is the most incompetent Republican ever?


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To: dangus
He has not been the most incompetent but he has been pretty bad. But it's not about Bush anymore, it's time to look for our new leader in 08' and learn from our mistakes. It's not any one persons fault though the President dose take a great deal of blame for our losses, all elected republicans and the party needs to take responsibility for the election and learn from our mistakes and make 08 a Republican Sweep.
41 posted on 11/07/2006 11:33:33 PM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

I'm not going to say that...........

Saddam is history, the economy is good, and so far the Dems have only said "it's time for a change".

Ok Dems.........you got the ball.

Were all watching........


42 posted on 11/07/2006 11:34:03 PM PST by EnglishOnly
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To: dangus
Bush is not the worst by far. There is a certain failure of will by the American peope here. Plenty of blame to go around, but we are not the big red country we conservatives run around proclaiming. Our biggest states are locked up liberal. Our minorities are solid dem. We have weak middle of the roaders and the GOP majority always included RINOS. Lots of legal and illegal immigrants pouring in looking for liberal handouts.

I think leftism and liberalism are dangerous and idiotic. But republicans, IMHO have never wanted to lead enough to tell the people that squarely.

And the democrats are nefarious schemers without principle. A few thousand more GOP votes here and there and you'd all be saying Bush is brilliant.

43 posted on 11/07/2006 11:34:10 PM PST by Williams
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To: zbigreddogz

The problem is a US news media that could portray nothing right about the economy or Iraq that worked over time to help elect Democrats. This was a massive unreported in-kind contribution to the Democratic party that helped them to secure this win. That media study released last week shows 77% of stories about Republicans or Republican-related issues in this campaign were reported on negatively by the Clown Car Media while 88% for Dems. were positive.

Meanwhile, Dem. scandals with Mollohan, Jefferson and even Harry Reid were mostly ignoraed. Mollohan and Jefferson cruised to re-election tonight. That should tell you something about why this election went the way it did and it's not Foley or Ney.


44 posted on 11/07/2006 11:34:27 PM PST by MikeA
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To: dfwgator
Ok, so where is your great solution?

Vote in the primaries.

There is no excuse for picking a college cheerleader from Connecticut as the Republican choice for president.

Bush should have been out of the running early on.

45 posted on 11/07/2006 11:34:40 PM PST by mc6809e
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To: RedCell

i think he is probably stating a fact, that the US, when it has DECIDED to accomplish something, has accepted casualties approaching 100x our current rate, if not much more. any observer would agree that to occupy a generally unfriendly country with so few casualties is quite unusual.

I think you are misunderstanding the post. are YOU trivializing the casualties we took in WWII, somehow saying 100 men then is worth 1 man now? If not, you might consider clarifying your position on this.

If anything, the fact we have nominally occupied a generally hostile country for over 3 years at this casualty level is quite amazing (to those who have survived).


46 posted on 11/07/2006 11:36:03 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: spikeytx86

So the state of the economy and the fact we've been protected for 5+ years from further attacks was just all a great big accident and had nothing to do with Bush's policies? Unreal.


47 posted on 11/07/2006 11:36:10 PM PST by MikeA
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To: Ol' Sparky
That Bush is the most incompetent Republican ever? No, his father was.

Have we forgotten history? How about Herbert Hoover?

48 posted on 11/07/2006 11:36:14 PM PST by frankensnake (1BH `1)
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To: Echo Talon

Some people still don't believe that we are in a war.


49 posted on 11/07/2006 11:36:41 PM PST by Getsmart64
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To: Echo Talon

3,000 dead is NOT nothing


50 posted on 11/07/2006 11:36:57 PM PST by slaymakerpowertape
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To: fortheDeclaration
Thats fine, you are going to love the new and improved Congress! They are going to really curb spending, cut the deficit and hold down your taxes.

And protect your Second Ammendment rights! Well, let's just say that if you want any more of those 25-round magazines for your SKS, AK, AR-15 or whatever, buy them now.

51 posted on 11/07/2006 11:37:30 PM PST by kittycatonline.com
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To: mc6809e

Oh please, and McCain could have done any better??? He didn't even want to cut taxes and as a result we'd be never have the economy we've had these last 3 years. Spare us the personal attacks on Bush because you suddenly feel emboldened to come out from under your rock tonight to attack Bush and the Republicans.


52 posted on 11/07/2006 11:37:53 PM PST by MikeA
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To: MikeA

The problem is that, in the end, even Jefferson and Mollohan, in the eyes of voters, were just part of the same problem. It basically gave voters the feeling that things were rotten in the state of Denmark, and the bums needed to be thrown out. I don't think they paid much attention to the fact that the bums were just as much their guys as our guys. That's not a media problem so much as it is the way most people will see things. The clueless middle is always going to see in overbroad stereotypes, and the fact that we were running the show, and Ney and Foley did their things, killed us.


53 posted on 11/07/2006 11:38:06 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: RedCell
As American combat strength increased through the early stages of the war, Allied forces launched their first offensive actions. One of these involved mounting a major raid on the French port of Dieppe in order to not only foster German fears of an attack on the Western front thereby forcing them to divert resources from other areas of operations, but also to provide allied forces with an opportunity to test new techniques and equipment while gaining experience on amphibious assault operations. Initially planned for July 1942, the raid did not take place until August 19, 1942. Involving more than 6,000 troops, most of which were Canadians, eight Allied destroyers and 74 air squadrons, the raid called for attacks at five different locations along a 16-kilometres front. The first four attacks would take place just before dawn and would be followed by the main attack on Dieppe. The raid ended during the early afternoon of that day. It resulted in more than 3,000 casualties, including almost 2,000 prisoners of war. Only 2,210 Canadians returned to England, out of the 4,963 who initially took part in the operation. While not a success, the operation did nevertheless set the stage for the eventual success of Operation Overlord, by forcing improvements to be made in tactics, techniques and fire support.globalsecurity.org
54 posted on 11/07/2006 11:40:02 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon
It may not be anything to you, but let's not lose sight of the fact that each one of these people that made the ultimate sacrifice meant something to someone.

If your point is to say that the number of casualties is lower than another conflict in our history over a specific period of time, please, may I suggest, that you rephrase your point.
55 posted on 11/07/2006 11:40:02 PM PST by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: kittycatonline.com
And protect your Second Ammendment rights! Well, let's just say that if you want any more of those 25-round magazines for your SKS, AK, AR-15 or whatever, buy them now.

Especially since Bush already promised to sign it when it expired a few years back! Bush is the most liberal Republican since Nixon.
56 posted on 11/07/2006 11:40:03 PM PST by UncleDick
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To: Echo Talon

3,000 dead is NOT nothing


57 posted on 11/07/2006 11:40:50 PM PST by slaymakerpowertape
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To: RedCell; slaymakerpowertape

compared to EVERY other WAR it is!


58 posted on 11/07/2006 11:41:02 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: MikeA

Soros poured huge money into this election - ACORN, etc. Untold millions. He's the big winner tonight. America is the big loser.


59 posted on 11/07/2006 11:41:08 PM PST by karnage
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To: mc6809e

You couldn't carry this President's jock.

Honestly, it must be BIZARRE to think you're more knowledgable in these things than a man aware of classified intelligence you will never see who has actually been in the trenches making tough decisions and fighting for the future of this country for years.

Your arrogance is astonishing.


60 posted on 11/07/2006 11:41:28 PM PST by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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