Posted on 11/07/2006 11:20:16 PM PST by dangus
Are we allowed to say it now? Can we drop the happy warrior schtick? In the past six years, we've seen the deficit explode like never before in the history of the country. A flaming bra-burner nominated to the Supreme Court, only to be replaced by a (hopefully) stealth conservative. The most inept State Department in the history of the United States. (Clinton's wasn't incompetent; they were flat-out fifth columnists.) 20 million new illegal aliens, and barely-contained glee that the election-day losses mean we can welcome another 50 million in.
And I hate to say this, but when we won the war in Iraq, I was praying for my friend who was an MP, fearing for his safety in the dangerous house-to-house searches. And then they never came. So I put joyful trust that the military didn't need to do such a dangerous task. Then came the insurgency. And bold optimism. And more violence. And more bold optimism. But, um, after 3,000 of America's finest dead, it becomes plainly apparent that Rummy and Bush simply didn't realize that disarming the terrorists was necessary.
So can we say it now?
That Bush is the most incompetent Republican ever?
Here is a web site which might help with the perspective issue...
Lots of historical recorded deaths due to wars and disease.
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/20centry.htm
Not yours, echo talons.
And by the way, what evidence do you have to support that contention?? I really doubt McCain could have rallied the GOP base to make House and Senate gains in both 2002 and 2004 much less 2006 and never would have had a political advisor as astute as Rove to make it all happen. The fact that McCain would have let the economy founder on slow or no growth instead of cutting taxes (which he opposed out of some obsession over the dubious proposition that lower deficits have more economic benefit than lower taxes) would likely have meant we'd have lost Congress in 2004, if not the White House because of a foundering economy.
Also, would McCain's open borders initiatives have excited the base in Congressional elections? Would his desire to grant constitutional rights to terrorists prisoners have gotten out the vote?? Get real. We'd never have held Congress for more than 2 years much less 6 under McCain. You can go to the bank on that...and I use to be a McCain supporter until he wanted citizenship for illegals and rights for terrorists...which shows how McCain would have lost Republican voters in a big way.
NOW IT'S GUILIANI 08 AND SCREW YOU MCCAIN!
YOu're all missing the point. It's not that 3,000 was too high of a price. I was calling for more military boldness. The point is that the war keeps dragging on, because there was never a plan for how to demilitarize the terrorists. We were caught completly off-guard by the enemy's simple act of removing their uniforms. There simply WAS no clean-up operation. And to this day, after we clear out a city, we let the terrorists move right back into it.
Please see link at post 101
I swear before God I am sick and tired of these apparently stupid vanities.
No, you can't freaking "say it now."
That was my first thought after tonight. DeWine and Chafee got booted, so much for the "Gang of 14". See ya McCain, hello Rudy.
I'll vote for him in '08 with a smile on my face.
3,000 in 3 years is insignificant in ANY historical war context.
As somebody that has seen terrorists actively operating in this countrty suddenly vanish at the onset of the Iraq war I disagree.
What planet did you come from? That's one of the dumbest things I've heard today...and there are certainly a lot of idiots out tonight.
Whats the plan General dangus? Scorched Earth?
Undoing 30 years of communist dirty work? How? In case you didn't notice, Bush is a crusader for big government. Did you ever read Executive Order 13166? Ever see the zealots running the EEOC? Bush has bloated the federal bureaucracy more than even Lyndon Johnson. Even when he discovers that excessive bureaucracy has frozen America's intelligence agencies, what's his solution? Add another layer of bureaucracy.
It's funny you talk about selling Democracy down the river from some free pills... that's exactly what Bush has done with his prescription benefits plan.
I don't believe that for a second. I also don't to buy into that "religion of peace" crap spouted by our moron-in-chief.
According to some military experts outside Pentagon, this is the MOST successful war that the U.S. has ever won!!!
3,000 in 3 years is insignificant in ANY historical war context.
You're very right. I'd like to see Tony Snow say that to the Press Corps. and many Republicans saying it in speeches. Enough is enough. The media defined this war before we went to Iraq and even some people in this forum have bought into it.
"YOu're all missing the point."
I am not missing that point. I do not agree with this conflict dragging on. I could end it quickly. I would be tried as a war criminal, but I would be willing to pay that price.
1: Destroy Fallujah, destroy the bridges
2: Destroy Damascus
3: Destroy Tehran
4: Destroy the militias
5: Destroy all Holy Sites (all Major Mosques)
6: Destroy all cemetaries (part of 5)
Annex southern Iraq between Kuwait and Iran.
After all, it is all about OIL!
They owe us for their freedom!
I was not speaking about you I was correcting him. He thought I was speaking about him.
And the death toll is very low compared to comparable high intensity wars but there deaths are never insignificant.
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