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College Football Live Thread - Weekend Ten
Sportsline.com Scoreboard ^ | 11/2 to 11/7 of the year 2006

Posted on 11/02/2006 3:06:56 PM PST by MikefromOhio

Weekend Nine brought one of the “Big 3” down. USC went into Corvallis, Oregon with their BCS destiny in their hands. Had they won out, they were assured of playing for the mythical National Championship. Unfortunately for USC, the Oregon State Beavers had other ideas. After getting out to a 33-10 lead, Oregon St. survived a ferocious comeback attempt by John David Booty to hold on. The loss by USC opened the door for yet another unbeaten team to hold destiny in the palm of their hand. West Virginia takes the spotlight this weekend in the Thursday Night Showdown with Louisville.

Thursday, November 2nd, 2006 (ESPN Thursday Night Game)

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(3) West Virginia at (5) Louisville (Pick)


This game will easily be the toughest game that either team has experienced this year. West Virginia features a devastating running game headed by RB Steve Slaton. While you may not know the name now, as a sophomore, he still has time to make a name for himself in college. Louisville features a tough dependable Quarterback in Brian Brohm. 5 weeks after having surgery on a ligament in his throwing hand, Brohm is back guiding the Cardinal offense with the efficiency that was predicted early on this year. The winner of this game has the inside track to the BCS National Title game. The loser is still in the BCS hunt, but can’t afford another slip up.

Louisville is a good team, but West Virginia is the class of the Big East. Slaton and QB Pat White will show why their running game is one of the best in the nation. This won’t be a blowout, but I think that by the end of the game, everyone will know exactly who is the top dog in the Big East race.

West Virginia 32 – Louisville 21

Friday November 3rd, 2006 (ESPN2 Friday Night Game)


Air Force (-6.5) at Army

Army is an improving team, but Air Force is on another level altogether. Army might keep it close for a half, but Air Force will pull away in the 2nd half.

Air Force 35 – Army 16

Saturday November 4th 2006 (in ranking order)

(1) Ohio State (-24) at Illinois

Ohio State 45 – Illinois 6

Ball St. at (2) Michigan (-33.5)

Michigan 34 – Ball St. 3

Oklahoma St. at (4) Texas (-18)

Texas 38 – Oklahoma St. 27

Arkansas St. at (6) Auburn (-30)

Auburn 37 - Arkansas St. 3

(7) Florida (-17) at Vanderbilt

Florida 35 – Vandy 10

(13) LSU (-3.5) at (8) Tennessee

LSU 21 – Tennessee 17

(9) USC (-28) at Stanford

USC 37 – Stanford 10

UCLA at (10) Cal (-17)

Cal 42 – UCLA 21

North Carolina at (11) Notre Dame (-24.5)

ND 38 – North Carolina 7

(12) Arkansas (-2.5) at South Carolina

Arkansas 24 – South Carolina 17

Fresno St. 21 at (14) Boise State 45 from Wednesday

(15) Rutgers BYE

(16) Boston College (-3.5) at (22) Wake Forest

BC 30 – Wake 24

Penn State at (17) Wisconsin (-7)

Wisconsin 25 – Penn State 22

(18) Oklahoma (-2) at (21) Texas A&M

Oklahoma 45 – Texas A&M 28

Maryland at (19) Clemson (-20)

Clemson 32 – Maryland 24

(20) Georgia Tech (-5) at N.C. State

Georgia Tech 38 – NC State 16

(23) Virginia Tech (-2.5) at Miami

VT 23 – Miami 17

(24) Oregon (-16.5) at Washington

Oregon 32 – Washington 28

Arizona at (25) Washington State (-16)

BY REQUEST

New Mexico BYE

(18) Oklahoma (-2) at (21) Texas A&M

A&M is entering a tough stretch of their schedule. After putting away Baylor late, they enter a brutal stretch in the Big XII where they will face Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas in consecutive weeks.

Oklahoma 45 – Texas A&M 28

Sunday November 5th, 2006 (ESPN Sunday Night Game)


Southern Miss (-7) at Memphis

Memphis is one of the worst teams in D-1A this year. Southern Miss tends to play down to its competition, but I think they will win this game easily.

Southern Miss 38 – Memphis 13

Tuesday November 7th, 2006 (ESPN2 Tuesday Night Game)

Toledo at Northern Illinois (No line yet posted)

Major conferences don’t usually play on Tuesday nights. That said Tuesday night games are great exposure for the MAC. Northern Illinois should be the favorite in this game. Can Garrett Wolfe look like the guy who was on pace for nearly 4000 yards on the ground? That’s the key here.

Northern Illinois 32 – Toledo 28


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To: Georgia

I'm wondering what your tagline means....


301 posted on 11/03/2006 9:07:52 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio

Actually-
Not being a frequent poster of comments, I just noticed that. That must have been from a response earlier in the season. Can't even remember.
I actually have alot of respect for the Big Ten.
However, I would like to see a conference championship in the big 10 and pac 10. Imagine if you played Michigan on the 18th, beat them, and then played them again the first week of December. Splitting the series 1-1. How would we decide the teams for the NC? I think all conferences should either have a championship game or none at all.


302 posted on 11/03/2006 9:23:16 AM PST by Georgia
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To: MikefromOhio

"Bring those pathetic defenses against the Big Ten or the SEC and you'll lose every game by 30.."

Such chest-thumping coming from a Big Ten honk. So, as usual, let's check out the facts and see where we are. Thus far, the horrible Big East with their incredibly lousy defenses and overrated talent have actually had the guts to play some of these gridiron giants from these powerful conferences you reference. So I guess I will find routs across the board by the SEC and Big Ten teams, Big East teams just run off the field by these conferences. Uh, yeah.

Louisville beat the SEC's Kentucky 59-28.
Connecticut beat the Big Ten's Indiana 14-7.
Rutgers and Syracuse both beat Illinois, (33-0 and 31-21 respectively) and Illinois has played nothing but close games in the Big Ten this year.
West Virginia pounded SEC's Mississippi State 42-14.

Cincinnati lost to the Big Ten's Ohio State 37-7.
Pittsburgh lost to the Big Ten's Michigan State 38-23.
Syracuse lost to the Big Ten's Iowa 20-13.

Now, if games and scores actually matter, where do you get the basis for your blanket condemnations of the Big East programs? Last year, big bad Georgia was supposed to overwhelm West Virginia in their bowl game and they were shocked at West Virginia's overall speed and athleticism. I am no supporter of the Big East conference, but it gets a little old hearing this same old bs time and time again when the games played show otherwise.


303 posted on 11/03/2006 9:25:25 AM PST by raptor29
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To: raptor29

It's easy.

You beat the bottom feeders but when the big boys show up, you lose by 30....

BTW Cincy had Louisville on the ropes. That same Cincy team that ran for over 200 yards against that "vaunted" Louisville defense (cough cough) ran for -4 against Ohio State.

It's not comparable. There is seriously a chance that RUTGERS could be your conference champion. Seriously. That's a joke.

The Big East is leaps and bounds better this year than they were last year and they ARE better than the ACC. But as a conference they aren't on the same level as the other big 4 conferences, even the Big XII which is having a serious down year.


304 posted on 11/03/2006 9:31:11 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: Georgia

well first things first, Ohio State and Michigan would be in the same division.

The Big Ten won't screw with The Game too much.

But as it is, they won't ever have a conference championship game in the Big Ten. The only team they will accept to make it a 12 team conference is ND, and ND and the Big Ten don't really talk anymore except when they are playing each other.

Every conference is different and unique. I like it this way. Besides the Big Ten and the Pac 10 don't need the cash grabs that those conference games have become.

BTW the Pac 10 added a 9th conference game, so while they don't have a championship game, they are a round robin league now.


305 posted on 11/03/2006 9:33:14 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio

You could put the 2 in different divisions and still play your annual rivalry. That is what GA-Auburn do. We rotate the rest of the sec west.
I did forget that you only had 11 teams.
I still think it should be all or nothing with these conference championships.


306 posted on 11/03/2006 9:49:55 AM PST by Georgia
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To: MikefromOhio

Ok, so at least we cleared that up. If the very top teams in the SEC or Big Ten play against the lower Big East teams, then maybe you get a 30-point rout!! As though you couldn't make that statement across conferences.


307 posted on 11/03/2006 9:57:57 AM PST by raptor29
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To: Georgia
It won't happen.

Neither fan base nor the school themselves will go for it.

Beyond that, Penn State wants to play both as well.

Right now the divisions would look very lopsided. No one in the Big Ten would want any possibility of an Ohio State - Michigan rematch. It's twisting people around pretty good this year that it's a slight possibility in the NC game.

They would have to go with a east-west format.

that would mean this:

East:

Penn State
Ohio State
Michigan
Indiana
Purdue
And if they joined, ND

West:
Iowa
Illinois
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Michigan State
Northwestern

It wouldn't work very well. That would be like the Big XII trading Nebraska to the South for Baylor. The only real switch would be ND and Michigan State, but still even then, you'd have 3 traditional powers in one division vs. one power in the other division.
308 posted on 11/03/2006 10:06:19 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: raptor29

well let's see here, WVA could've scheduled a tought OOC game, but they would rather play teams like Marshall, East Carolina, Eastern Washington and Mississippi State.

If Mississippi State is your best OOC win, that's pathetic. This schedule isn't any good in any era, so the scheduling them when they are good excuse doesn't work here.

Louisville, OTOH isn't helped by the fact that Miami have absolutely blown up as a team. They crushed Miami, like they should, but Miami has shown that it isn't a very good team either. But let's say that's their big OOC game. What if Miami doesn't make it to a New Year's Day bowl game? There's a very good chance they won't.....

IF my predictions hold, given the Louisville win, I still can't put them ahead of Texas in the human polls and I'll be surprised if they leap Florida in the BcS.

I'd love to see a playoff, but you have to admit watching that game yesterday reminded you more of a WAC game between Boise State and Hawaii instead of a conference that has a legit title contender.

We need a playoff, but it isn't there.


309 posted on 11/03/2006 10:11:13 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio
I watched both teams for the first time last night. My take is that both teams are not as good as their ranking was.

What do you know about Rutgers? I have not watched them, but have read they actually have a decent defense. Thursday night's game next week should be interesting.

310 posted on 11/03/2006 10:18:10 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

They do seem to have a good defense.

I've seen 4 Rutgers games this year.

Each one they've shown a VERY strong running game and a shaky/mediocre passing game.

But they make it by playing good special teams and defense.

UCONN showed us last week that Rutgers can be beatable by making them one dimensional. The problem is that while UCONN held Rutgers running game down, they didn't have the offense themselves to take advantage.


311 posted on 11/03/2006 10:20:31 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio
Biggest game left this week seems to be LSU v Tennessee.

It will be interesting to see if Ainge can play well. With him the Vols will likely do well, without him, it will get dicey.

The SEC continues to beat itself up, likely all the way through the championship game.

312 posted on 11/03/2006 10:32:10 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

yeah that and the BC-Wake game....

I don't know.

Ainge hasn't exactly been a model of consistency lately. If his ankle is bad, it could be a very long day for Tennessee. They need balance on offense against LSU's defense.

If he's healthy, I still think LSU is the better team, but it will be a good game to see who actually wins.


313 posted on 11/03/2006 10:35:14 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio

Mike, as I said earlier, I'm no proponent of the Big East. But one thing you have to get past. Just because there is offense in a game doesn't make it a lesser game than a 10-7 slugfest. Some of these programs have really talented offensive players with innovative coaches and very sophisticated offenses. And to compete against them, the teams in their leagues are forced to play a 'bend but don't break' style of defense to keep from getting blown out. You give up yards, you give up points, but if you hold them down enough, and beat them by 10, 40-30 is just as much of a ten point win as 17-7.

I just haven't seen any consistent general evidence over the past 5+ years that any of the supposed tough defense conferences do any better in shutting these offensive conferences down when they play straight up.

One thing I need to know, though. Is Notre Dame any good? Because I need to know if it's a big deal if USC kicks their ass in a couple weeks. Because if Notre Dame isn't any good, then Michigan has played nobody this year, in which case I'm wondering why they are such a consensus and unquestioned #2. Secondly, if Notre Dame is actually good, then I'm wondering how the 8th best team in the 'defensively suspect' Pac-10 (UCLA) shut them down defensively at least as impressively as Michigan did.


314 posted on 11/03/2006 2:33:17 PM PST by raptor29
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To: Lakeshark
"The BCS championship should be the SEC winner v the Big Ten winner this year."

Well I hope you're right, since LSU is going to win out and Auburn is going to lose to Alabama, then LSU will clobber Florida in the SEC Championship.

315 posted on 11/03/2006 2:43:32 PM PST by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: MikefromOhio; All

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316 posted on 11/03/2006 7:40:00 PM PST by bwteim (bwteim = begin with the end in mind)
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To: raptor29

Bend but don't give up 50?

Was that the defense we saw last night?

Look if there was something to pull out of that game last night, is that it was Louisville's biggest ever win.

But face it, neither is on the level of the SEC top dogs, the Big Ten two, the Pac-10 2 and a half (depending on which Oregon shows up) or Texas, Oklahoma and Nebraska in the Big XII.....that's just reality.


317 posted on 11/03/2006 8:22:23 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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Good Morning everyone!!!

318 posted on 11/04/2006 8:08:25 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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TV Listings with Announcers & DirecTV

Nov. 4 Sat. Penn State @ Wisconsin Noon ABC/GP (Ch. 211)
Brad Nessler/Bob Griese/Paul Maguire

Nov. 4 Sat. Missouri @ Nebraska Noon ABC/GP (Ch. 780)
Gary Thorne/Andrew Ware

Nov. 4 Sat. Maryland @ Clemson Noon ESPN2
Pam Ward/Mike Gottfried

Nov. 4 Sat. Ball State @ Michigan Noon ESPNU
Clay Matvick/TBA

Nov. 4 Sat. Baylor @ Texas Tech Noon FSN
Bill Land/Gary Reasons

Nov. 4 Sat. Virginia @ Florida State Noon LF/GP (Ch. 777)
Steve Martin/Doc Walker

Nov. 4 Sat. Northwestern @ Iowa Noon GP (Ch. 778)
Wayne Larrivee/Kelly Stouffer

Nov. 4 Sat. Florida @ Vanderbilt 12:30 p.m. LF/GP (Ch. 781)
Dave Neal/Dave Archer

Nov. 4 Sat. Mississippi State @ Alabama 12:30 p.m. LF/GP (Ch. 782)
Bill Rosinski/Dave Rowe

Nov. 4 Sat. North Carolina @ Notre Dame 2:30 p.m. NBC
Tom Hammond/Pat Haden

Nov. 4 Sat. TCU @ UNLV 3:00 p.m. Versus (OLN)

Nov. 4 Sat. Hawaii @ Utah State 3:00 p.m. GP (Ch. 777)

Nov. 4 Sat. LSU @ Tennnessee 3:30 p.m. CBS
Verne Lundquist/Gary Danielson

Nov. 4 Sat. Ohio State @ Illinois 3:30 p.m. ESPN2
Sean McDonough/Chris Spielman

Nov. 4 Sat. Purdue @ Michigan State 3:30 p.m. ESPNU
Dave Armstrong/Mike Tomczak

Nov. 4 Sat. Kansas State @ Colorado 3:30 p.m. FSN
Joel Myers/Dave Lapham

Nov. 4 Sat. Washington @ Oregon 3:30 p.m. TBS
Chip Carey/Tom Ramsey

Nov. 4 Sat. Tulsa @ Houston 3:30 p.m. CSTV

Nov. 4 Sat. UL-Lafayette @ Troy 4:00 p.m. GP (Ch. 778)

NOv. 4 Sat. Nevada @ Idaho 5:00 p.m. GP (Ch. 779)

Nov. 4 Sat. Boston College @ Wake Forest 7:00 p.m. ESPN2
Ron Franklin/Ed Cunningham

Nov. 4 Sat. Georgia Tech @ NC State 7:00 p.m. ESPNU
Mike Adamle/Charles Arbuckle

Nov. 4 Sat. Southern California @ Stanford 7:00 p.m. FSN
Barry Tompkins/Petros Papadakis

Nov. 4 Sat. Oklahoma State @ Texas 7:00 p.m. TBS
Ron Thulin/Charles Davis

Nov. 4 Sat. Tulane @ Marshall 7:30 p.m. CSTV

Nov. 4 Sat. Arkansas @ South Carolina 7:45 p.m. ESPN
Mike Patrick/Todd Blackledge

Nov. 4 Sat. Virginia Tech @ Miami, Fla 8:00 p.m. ABC/GP (Ch. 781)
Mark Jones/David Norrie

Nov. 4 Sat. UCLA @ California 8:00 p.m. ABC/GP (Ch. 782)
Dan Fouts/Tim Brant

Nov. 4 Sat. Oklahoma @ Texas A&M 8:00 p.m. ABC/GP (Ch. 780)
Brent Musburger/Bob Davie/Kirk Herbstreit


319 posted on 11/04/2006 8:39:51 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio

Thanks for the list, Mike.


320 posted on 11/04/2006 8:59:05 AM PST by bwteim (bwteim = begin with the end in mind)
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