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To: zeugma
You wouldn't believe how long a directory tree you have to traverse in order to just get to the httpd.conf file. That, and the fact that the only way to install it scatters all kinds of crud all over your disk.

Thats too bad my Oracle DBA came to me the other day asking to start using this on DEV with the hopes of prod but if its going to be a pain to support I am going to have to see some real benefit to it.

I've heard horror stories from our oracle group about them not even wanting to talk with you until after x,y,and z patches had been installed even though the patches have nothing to do with the problems at hand.

Ive got one more for you, I had a pseries box sliced up into a few partitions one of which was running RHEL4(Power). OS was on, x server running ready to do the install right? wrong! After applying a few dozen patches the thing still did not work and *then* they looked at my hardware setup and told me unless there was a true graphics card on the system you cant use the gui setup (which is in and of itself insane). I lost 16 man hours applying patches!

10 posted on 10/29/2006 7:32:07 PM PST by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: N3WBI3
What kills me about Oracle's "support" of Apache is that you must use their specific version and configuration of Apache for them to "support" it.

When you do the install, check out how much disk space it is eating. Granted, these days people think that disk space is cheap, but for those of my servers that aren't SAN connected, it's not really as cheap as we'd like. I've got a few servers our there that do real work 24/7 that have less total disk space on them than my laptop. Come to think about it, my V100s have less ram than my laptop too. :-)

Speaking of V100s, if you want to see something completely off-topic, but really sad, check this out... from a "top" output...

load averages: 12.92, 21.88, 22.79                                          08:48:05
133 processes: 121 sleeping, 10 running, 1 stopped, 1 on cpu
CPU states:  1.5% idle, 89.8% user,  8.8% kernel,  0.0% iowait,  0.0% swap
Memory: 1024M real, 201M free, 1003M swap in use, 7.4G swap free

Check out the  insane load averages. This box has been up for 378 days, and has pretty much been beaten up like this the whole time.

11 posted on 10/30/2006 6:54:21 AM PST by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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