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To: WildHorseCrash
filthy creationist/ID lies to children.

Wow!! The hostility is fantastic. It reminds me of when feminist law students would go ballistic and resort to mere ad hominem attacks when their view points were criticized. I love it.

Anyway, it is amazing that creationism is now viewed as "filthy". What is filthy is when children are taught that they are nothing more than highly evolved animals. We certainly can't expect them to behave in any other way when that is what they think they are. But I really don't think actual debate is going to happen here anyways.

159 posted on 10/24/2006 8:20:55 PM PDT by Clump
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To: Clump; WildHorseCrash
[filthy creationist/ID lies to children.]

Wow!! The hostility is fantastic.

Yes, spreading lies is guaranteed to tick people off. That's why Michael Moore gets a hostile reaction too.

It reminds me of when feminist law students would go ballistic and resort to mere ad hominem attacks when their view points were criticized.

Actually, it reminds me of how people respond to the cynical lies of liberals and communists, and for the same reasons.

I love it.

You "love it" when people tell giant lies, and other people get upset over the rape of truth? You're a sick guy.

Anyway, it is amazing that creationism is now viewed as "filthy".

Learn to read, son. When they tell lies -- and they tell a lot of them -- the lies are what's filthy. Feel free to disagree and defend the telling of lies, if you wish, but don't expect me to sign up.

What is filthy is when children are taught that they are nothing more than highly evolved animals.

Nobody teaches this. You should stop lying yourself. It is true that biology correctly teaches that we are the result of evolutionary processes, and that we are animals (we're not plants or bacteria, for pete's sake, we're animals just like we're mammals and vertebrates and so on), but nobody teaches schoolkids that we are "nothing more" than that, because of course we are more than "just animals".

We certainly can't expect them to behave in any other way when that is what they think they are.

Kids aren't as stupid as to misunderstand their biology classes as badly as, well, as you have.

But I really don't think actual debate is going to happen here anyways.

Not if you can't keep up your end of the discussion, no.

165 posted on 10/24/2006 8:30:00 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: Clump
It reminds me of when feminist law students would go ballistic and resort to mere ad hominem attacks when their view points were criticized.

It isn't an ad hominem attack to point out that real scientists don't debate creationists becase the former believe the latter are frauds, kooks, and publicity whores out to do harm if, as is the case, that actually is the reason they do not debate them. (Although I did add some gratuitous stuff about Hamm, just for fun...)

Anyway, it is amazing that creationism is now viewed as "filthy".

I wrote that the lies are filthy, not creationism. Was this law school you attended an ABA-accredited institution?

But I really don't think actual debate is going to happen here anyways.

It could. But what kind of debate will it be when some of the creationists ignore the millions of data points which support evolution, in favor of an absurd belief in the literal truth of the Genesis stories?

180 posted on 10/25/2006 11:57:56 AM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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