Posted on 10/11/2006 1:33:46 PM PDT by lowbridge
LOS LUNAS, N.M. Oct 11, 2006 (AP)— Three workers at a Burger King restaurant were arrested after two Isleta tribal police officers discovered that the hamburgers they ordered were sprinkled with marijuana.
The Isleta Police Department officers ate about half of their burgers Sunday before discovering marijuana on the meat. The officers used a field test kit to confirm the substance was pot, then went to a hospital for a medical evaluation.
The three Burger King employees Justin Armijo, 19; Robert Nuckols, 21; and manager Joseph Ledesma, 33 were arrested and charged with possession of marijuana and aggravated battery on an officer, a felony.
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Armijo ping. Any relation to your family?
Back in the day, we just mixed into the brownie batter and baked it.
While I do not doubt your intentions, your expertise leaves much to be desired.
There is NO need to heat anything for THC to do it's thing, merely ingesting it raw will work, albeit somewhat slower than inhaling smoke (and the effects last longer).
The amount that could be involved here (not noticed until halfway) would be insufficient, even if it was top quality (unlikely for BK employees) to be anything but wasted, but not due to lack of "activation".
Trust me, I know these things...
You may be right, but Sir Gawain is right, too. An acquantaince of mine bakes and sells pot brownies. When she is cooking up the "pot butter" the smell is intolerable.
Bhang is made from raw pot. Everyone who's tried seems to agree about the intoxicating effects.
No, I AM right.
Cooking pot has no effect on it's psychoactive properties, either way.
Post some links to back up your argument. I'll try to find some tonight.
Let me put this as delicately as I can...
My knowledge on this particular subject does not derive from "links" or "sources", but from some 35 years of experience with every form of cannibis known to man, and a few experimental varieties never referenced in the "literature".
While we're on the subject, pot prohibition is the stupidest single thing we've ever done governmentally.
The mastication level, or the degree to which the vegetable matter was ground holds the highest degree on the amount of "material" absorbed.
Humans have notoriously poor cellulose digestive capabilities.
THC is VERY quickly soluble in digestive fluids (or alcohol, or milk/dairy), there is no need to digest the cellulose.
To be "sprinkled" on burgers and not noticed this particular pot would have been finely ground, exposing maximum surface area to the digestive fluids, but the quantity that would pass without immediate notice (not much) and the quality that Burger King employees would likely have available (not very good) argue that these cops probably felt no effects.
When this first hit the news the other night my brother said he would bet the officers had a drug test coming up that they were worried about so they came up with this lame story as a cover. I don't know if the men arrested have confessed or what evidence there is against them, but now it looks like it really happened. Amazing!
If you want the intense effect of THC WITHOUT the cellulose, throw a handful of pot leaves and stems into some grain alcohol, and reflux it in a condensation tower at a lab bench. Let the liquid in the flask cool, then strain out the pieces of stems and leaves. Save the decanted liquid for whatever medicinal purposes that are considered useful.
And people thought I wasn't paying attention in Chemistry lab.
Soaking overnight without heating works too.
A friend of mine can't smoke it, so he extracts it into alcohol and mixes his drinks with it, but he's a Philistine so he uses Canadian Mist...
An overnight soak in water (before the whiskey) will remove most of the taste.
http://www.erowid.org/references/refs_view.php?ID=6617
The pharmacokinetics of THC varies in dependence of its route of administration. Pulmonary assimilation of Cannabis (smoking, inhalation) leads to a maximum THC concentration within minutes, psychotropic effects start within seconds to a few minutes, reach a maximum after 15-30 min, and slope down within 1-2 h. In case of oral ingestion the effect sets in delayed after 30-90 min, reaches its maximum after 2-3 h and lasts about 4-8 h. Duration of action depends on measured parameters. Intestinal absorption of THC is increased by application in a lipophilic base. Cannabinoids are present in the plant mainly as pharmacologically inactive carboxylic acids (more than 95%), that are transformed into the active phenols by heating (smoking, baking). Heating of 5 min to 200 degrees C seems to be optimal.
So in summation, while you may be correct that no heating is required, nearly all of it is wasted if you don't heat it. In other words, you have to eat a whole hell of a lot more unactivated THC to get the same effect you would from a much smaller activated dose. That's just science.
It's not "raw". It's boiled like a tea to activate the THC.
That's flat out incorrect as shown in post #74.
Heating to 200 degrees C is what vaporizers do, which, well, vaporizes the material.
Believe what you like, I know what I know, and how I know it.
Your cited source fails to mention that the liver converts part of the ingested THC to a more psychoactive hydroxyl form...
If you want to eat it without heating it, be my guest. You're just throwing most of it away when you do. But hey, it's your money. Do whatever you like.
I used to eat at that Burger King. I'm soooo glad I moved away from that God forsaken town! All this time, I thought it was just the "Rocky Mountain High" that I was enjoying. :o) They probably put it on all of their burgers because of all of the gang bangers who live there. Maybe they were stoned and didn't notice they gave the burgers to cops. LOL!!
I'd imagine that would just be standard procedure. Do you really think they were worried about it?
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