Posted on 10/10/2006 4:56:51 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
Linux or open source seems to thrive wherever Left governments rule. And as Kerala schools log Microsoft out and boot open source systems, Linux world is buzzing with excitement over possibilities in the communist-ruled states. Though West Bengal and Tripura have to go whole hog to adopt a free software model, ideological closeness is more than evident. Kerala, most insiders’ feel, is turning out to be Richard Stallman's happiest hunting ground. His personal vibes with Velikakathu Sankaran Achuthanandan, even from VS's pre-chief minister era, are in play. It’s a picture watching the duo cozying together in a similar attire — Stallman in a crumbled white T-shirt and VS in homely sleeveless white banian. Secretly, people do wonder what Class VII drop-out Marxist patriarch chitchats with whiz-kid of the Red Hat business-model. However, those who attended a Stallman seminar on FOSS, could clearly see that Linux and Left are on the same wavelength.
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Still - let me get your opinion on our Patent system.....Bad? Good? Communistic???
Wait a minute? Why must nuclear design by on Linux computers? Why can't they use Windows?
You didn't read #56? I believe it's a Linux-only application. But make sure you update before designing any bombs.
So imagine if Denmark made a ship based on some designs they found in a book describing an American ship. Then imagine that some leftists in our government said "I like that foreign ship better than the original American ship, so my office is going to release complete designs on how to outfit that ship with our latest weaponry, then we're going to release those designs to anyone who wants a copy. If the downloaders overload our infrastructure with their free downloads, we'll just buy bigger hosts for them to use, but we're giving this away for free." Sound ridiculous, Yes, it is, but that is basically what is happening with these software giveaways.
Because Windows is designed for normal users, not scientific uses like Unix/Linux.
Once again it's already been adressed. Patents are an important control mechanism that can help prohibit proliferation beyond what's necessary, in many circumstances
Once again it's already been adressed. Patents are an important control mechanism that can help prohibit proliferation beyond what's necessary, in many circumstances
Even with the full public disclosure required?
Linux is designed for scientific users while Microsoft has no place? You better inform Microsoft and such companies as RedHat. What about Solaris?
Obviously I could care less if a few people get their panties in a knot whenever their favorite leftist cause gets exposed. It's mildly entertaining, watching them squirm and twist as each attempted rationalization gets further and further bizarre. Now we're down to seeing the claims communists would use Windows on their supercomputers instead of the free Linux designed for such purposes! Hilarious!
Why wouldn't they? If they can get it, why not use it? You think that a rogue state would care less about the ideas behind a system when they use it? They want whatever will work that they can get. Windows can power servers. There are many other Realtime OSes....not just Linux.
You really need to read up on the history of Linux and install it. Your claim that it is a scientific OS is laughable at best. It is no more so than any other server OS. FreeBSD, OpenBSD, QNX, Plan9, and on and on. Some of them are under Stallmans's license, others are not.
The problem is you don't make a coherent argument. Linux is not an American invention and the bulk of it is not directly traced to the US government. Unless I am correct on my last post that you just don't like the US Government adding code to Linux or to any other operating system. But, again, I ask you to point to specifics - especially code that you know has been added and how it has military use. The Linux source code is out there - you should be easily able to find specifics.
You're talking in circles again, now back repeating your first post to the thread that I agreed with that it makes perfect sense to them to use whatever we give them for free. Since you obviously have no objection to it, you might as well outright admit it again and move on.
No circles - but you have still refused to answer my point about the exact harm.
Please clarify the exact harm done. You said the US government shouldn't use Open Source, fine. Let's go back in history 10 years - US government says it will never use Open Source Software (which is what you wanted, right)?. What is the state of Linux today as a result? Can you supply specifics?
Or did I get what you desire completely wrong. Please pick from this list:
1. Ban Open Source software and refuse to allow any public code sharing. Also banning public domain patent system as well, since it allows blue print sharing.
2. Not requiring the US government to adhere to an Open Source contract, therefore any improvements it makes need not be contributed (or it could just use FreeBSD and do this, but lets stay on Linux).
3. Shoot anyone who worked on the GPL.
4. None of the above? If not, please explain.
If you agree to it, then your problem is with distribution? I still don't see your issue with Linux and Open Source (different from other open information sharing or distribution).
Source code is, fundamentally, text--and the "freedom of speech" thingie in the Constitution is (correctly) interpreted as placing an extremely high burden on any governmental attempt to enjoin publication of text.
Because MS-Windows sucks?
Perhaps it's because you need sophisticated software capable of operating efficiently.
Perhaps :) But is that what Golden thinks? I mean, true communism yields to inferior products and innovation. If open source is communistic, then Linux must be vastly inferior, correct?
Thanks for your comment, but computer source code is not the same as dictation or text of the spoken word. Wonder what excuse might be next.
To clarify then, since I still can't put together what you want. You also want all public dissemination of any source code halted and forcibly prevented, correct?
For example, let's say I have a website where I document how to code an application that may have some limited applicability to a military application. My web page shoulf be illegal?
Why are you wasting everyone's time acting like you care if US software technology is given to foreign adversaries? You already flat out admitted in way back in post #12 you don't, and have talked in circles ever since, there's really nothing left for you to say unless you think you finally have a reason to justify your position. Your apparent best attempt, to claim the giveaways financed by our tax dollars are somehow capitalism, was laughable. Do you have anything better yet, or are you now retracting your original comments that you flat out don't care? Come up with something halfway decent, if at all possible. Thanks.
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