Posted on 10/10/2006 4:56:51 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
Linux or open source seems to thrive wherever Left governments rule. And as Kerala schools log Microsoft out and boot open source systems, Linux world is buzzing with excitement over possibilities in the communist-ruled states. Though West Bengal and Tripura have to go whole hog to adopt a free software model, ideological closeness is more than evident. Kerala, most insiders’ feel, is turning out to be Richard Stallman's happiest hunting ground. His personal vibes with Velikakathu Sankaran Achuthanandan, even from VS's pre-chief minister era, are in play. It’s a picture watching the duo cozying together in a similar attire — Stallman in a crumbled white T-shirt and VS in homely sleeveless white banian. Secretly, people do wonder what Class VII drop-out Marxist patriarch chitchats with whiz-kid of the Red Hat business-model. However, those who attended a Stallman seminar on FOSS, could clearly see that Linux and Left are on the same wavelength.
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I make no assumptions. I state facts of the lack of necessity of a powerful system to design a nuclear weapon. You state only pure conjecture that North Korea used Linux to design its weapons. Shut up about it until you have proof.
Then if you find out Linux was used, I would like to see an equal amount of venom directed at those who let North Korea get the hardware -- which could be some old 486 machines and still be vastly superior to what we designed our H-bomb with.
But wouldn't it just kill you if we found out they used a bunch of Windows 2000 workstations?
Nah...they had Linux back then powering all those vacuum tubes and slide rules. Linux is the single common denominator to all nuclear development, didn't you know. It is responsible for the Nuclear age, entirely.... ;)
Factually, irrefutably incorrect, as usual. Public domain has the same attributes.
It's either "Linux is a foreign UNIX clone" or "Linux gives away American technology," depending on what distraction he's trying to make.
I've already given a simple recommendation you've turned your nose up to. Stop the NSA, NASA and the DoD from using products that use Stallman's license which expects any improvements be given away for free, and especially stop any uneccesary original giveaways. Giving their secrets away to foreign adversaries is the definition of insanity, which probably explains why everyone supporting it here keeps talking in circles.
Okay - but still allow Open Source and still allow it to be given away for free, but just require North Korea to develop the enhancements done by the NSA, NASA and the DoD on its own.
So, do you know the extent of what these 'enhancements' are?
It's not, it's a foreign freeware clone that has been updated by American inventions that since make it capable of powering supercomputers, or faster realtime military apps, etc. Hopefully you're not wanting to pull a Clinton yourself and allow those improvements to go to rogue states free of charge and without inventory? I highly doubt it, there's usually a small and well defined group here that actually seems to believe such nonsense.
You can trace all real-time improvements to the American government or even specifically to American coders? Interesting....
There you go again, "It's okay to sell out your country's security, as long as you make a profit."
No - broaden my question to Iran and any adversary. Explain to me than what the enhancements that the US government was forced to put into Linux that you don't want those adversaries to get (without their own development).
Your method of attack just prevents these 'enhancements' - to the extent there are any. I just want to figure out what would be the difference between the current world and the world you want based on the legislation you want.
Clearly not what I said, another pathetic attempt to misrepresent my simple clear statements rather than face the facts.
Why else would you keep mentioning cost? Talk about any technology, period, going overseas and you might have a consistent point, but this constant mentioning of cost only says "I'm a traitor, but not for free."
As I've noted before, he's a talented tweety; capable of chirping two tunes out of each side of his beak.
Yeah, I'm sure rogue states abide by copyright law.
You're obviously stalling. I've already repeatedly identified sources of technology that need to be shut down, and specific types of technology such as clustering. You apparently still aren't convinced so you might as well go ahead and leave it at you don't really care, or actually support the transfers, and would rather talk on circles and ask silly unnecessary questions. At least that's what we've seen so far.
Copyright law is only one of many forms of possible enforcement. Even if it was the only method, it would be better than nothing like we have now.
No - my question to you is whether you have proof those were developed solely as a result of US government 'enhancements' to Linux or not. You concern, if I am reading you at any level, is that the US government is giving away code that someone is a key part of foreign government's malicious acts. So, I ask you specifically, and with facts backing up that the US government was forced to add such code, to point to it. You haven't.
You can't say "Open Source is evil" and then not point to examples of it being evil. There is no guilt by association here. Point to specific cases where the US government was forced to add code.
Or am I to take your words that you would outlaw open source software? You need to put forth a coherent agrument stating what you want - I am trying to help you put together what action you want taken and the specific harm you are targeting. Until then, you will continue to be ridiculed in topics such as this.
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