Posted on 09/23/2006 6:30:59 PM PDT by freepatriot32
Thank-you.
There is a father. He is very distraught. I don't know if these were his only children.
Yeah. I kind of thought she might have had someone special in her life recently. This may be why.
I understand this happens. For me, the fact that she was such a young mother just made the entire story even more depressing. She never had got to be a 'normal' teenager. And now her kids won't either.
So young.
It is interesting that the news article never mentioned the father of the children.
They mentioned the killer's boyfriend but not the father. Strange.
Where did you hear about the father?
More about the victim and the accused killer here:
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/A5E582C9F50EC8A8862571F20013C6AC?OpenDocument
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
Hall and Tunstall were friends growing up in East St. Louis, attending grade school and an alternative high school together. Both women were described by family and friends as quiet children who mostly kept to themselves.
Their family lives were unstable. While Tunstall spent time in foster homes, Hall spent years in and out of Juvenile Detention, according to her mother, Beverly Cruise. They became mothers as teenagers and struggled to care for their children.
Hall lost custody of her children for three years after her 2-month-old baby suffered debilitating injuries. She later regained custody.
Cruise is like a member of Tunstall’s family.
Cruise said she felt she had to come along when Tunstall’s family, including Tunstall’s mother, Sandra Myers, went to view the victim’s body Saturday at Officer Funeral Home in Belleville.
Along with the two mothers was Lovie White, who is Myers’ sister and Cruise’s best friend. The small group walked out of the office, through the waiting room and into the room that held their loved one’s remains.
Myers immediately fainted.
Cruise collapsed onto a bench. She clung to White as she cried.
Myers was carried to a sofa.
Cruise said softly: "I had to come see for myself."
She added, almost in a whisper, "I wanted to hold her, hug her, say I’m sorry."
Funeral arrangements have not been finalized.
The father:
Friends and relatives of Tunstall kept vigil at the park. "I¹m praying that they are not out there, that they are with someone and that person will return them," said a cousin of Jimella, Tyronica Tunstall.
Authorities were also talking to Ivan Collins, of East St. Louis, the father of the three missing children and the slain baby. A reporter saw a man crying and punching the wall at the police department as he looked at the picture.
Tyronica Tunstall, 25, said the last time she spoke to her cousin Jimella was on Labor Day. "I think it's sickening that you can actually do something
like this," she said. "I hope Jimella wasn't living when the baby was cut out."
The tragedy began to unfold on Thursday, at the funeral for a baby whom Hall had claimed for nearly a week was her own. Hall's claimed she delivered a dead newborn after being raped by a man at his home in St. Louis.
But after the burial, Hall confided to her boyfriend that the baby wasn't theirs, and she had removed it from her cousin's body after killing her, according to police.
--St. Louis Post- Dispatch
So, who exactly, complained that this was taking up precious space in the NEWS category and had this moved to CHAT?
The 3 missing children have just been found DEAD, and this monster (and mother!!) has just been charged with the murder of their mother along with the murder of her unborn baby.
Sometimes I am AMAZED at what offends people.
/rant
Not to defend the abortionist, but the difference is one of voluntary versus involuntary...similar to how a person is free to smoke--but could still sue someone who poisons him with carcinogens dumped into his water.
Heartbreaking.
Kids clothes can be just as expensive as adult clothes, and they grow out of them so quickly. It's not uncommon for the eldest to get the nice, new stuff, and the younger ones to get the second-hands.
As a young Mom, she probably was recycling what she already had. Since her eldest was a girl, she undoubtedly had lots of girls clothes.
I recycled a little when my daughter came after my son (just the neutral looking items in good shape). Sent a bunch of stuff to my sister when she was expecting. Turns out, she had a girl. She saved the stuff, and sent it back to me when I had another boy! They got a lot of use.
Still, the kids looked to be clean, in decent clothes, healthy, and happy.
God comfort their little souls and hold them close....
I agree with you...this belongs in News. It is a sad commentary on the condition of morality in these United States, and an even sadder commentary on the devaluation of human life.
Im not clear on something-is the woman who was charged initially also responsible for the murders of the three kids?
Such a situation is not uncommon in many places in this country--it's a large country with many cultures, and in some (of which this victim might have been), sexuality starts at an earlier age than you might be used to. I say this simply to point out that the victim might not stand out because of the age of her eldest child. I am not making a value judgement in this at all, but simply pointing out the reality.
I understand the point you make about the will of the mother, or lack thereof. Sort of like how did the woman get pregnant in the first place, by choice or by force. However, the person doing the killing of the fetus has a human life on his / her hands either way, no matter what our legal system says. That's the difference, or lack thereof, I am pointing out.
Truth serum. IMO, she has abdicated any rights to protection. There's a reason she's not co-operating. If she was co-operating, she'd take the police right to them. Those children MUST BE FOUND.
Just found out they were. How tragic. I hope she gets the death penalty if she's the one. I wonder who the apartment belonged to.
This just makes me sick. There's been way too much of this sort of thing (brutal treatment and death) of children lately.
I agree.
It appears that way. The three little ones were also stabbed...then shoved in a dryer. They have been dead for days.
It seems that it is a mass murder.
God only knows why he woman charged would do such a thing.
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