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Woman Charged in Deaths of Mother, Fetus
http://www.comcast.net ^ | 9 23 06 | JIM SUHR

Posted on 09/23/2006 6:30:59 PM PDT by freepatriot32

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EAST ST. LOUIS, Ill. - A woman was charged Saturday in the deaths of a pregnant friend and the fetus authorities believe she cut out from the slain woman's womb after knocking the victim unconscious.

Tiffany Hall, 24, was charged as authorities implored the public for help in their search for the victim's two sons, ages 7 and 2, and 1-year-old daughter. Authorities say they were last seen with Hall on Monday, three days before she was taken into custody.

Hall, who was jailed on $5 million bond, faces charges of first-degree murder and intentional homicide of an unborn child in the death of 23-year-old Jimella Tunstall, said St. Clair County State's Attorney Robert Haida.

Relatives of both women told media outlets the two grew up together and attended alternative schools. The woman in custody often baby-sat Tunstall's children, and Tunstall never expressed worry about leaving them in her care, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported.

An autopsy showed Tunstall bled to death after sustaining an abdominal wound caused by a sharp object, believed to be scissors, said Ace Hart, a deputy St. Clair County coroner.

Hart said he believes Tunstall was knocked unconscious before her baby, seven months into gestation, was removed during a slaying he called "very graphic and very brutal."

Officials were optimistic about the prospects of finding the children unharmed. Illinois State Police Capt. Craig Koehler said authorities will not end the search until the children are found.

"We have no evidence that leads us to believe they're dead," he said, adding two or three additional sites will be searched in and around East St. Louis on Sunday.

"These children are from East St. Louis," said Police Chief James Mister. "They know how to survive."

Koehler and Mister refused to publicly discuss the evidence or possible statements Hall has made to investigators. Authorities have also refused to reveal how the women knew each other, or whether Hall's alleged confession came before Tunstall's body was found.

Hall will likely be arraigned Monday on the charges, each carrying a 20 to 60 years or life in prison, Haida said. The murder count could be punishable by the death penalty.

"It's way too early to talk about that," Haida said. "Obviously, it's a very devastating situation for the families, but we're hopeful for a positive outcome in the return of the three children."

The charges came a day after a meticulous scouring of the 1,100-acre Frank Holten State Park, just blocks from where Tunstall's body was found. Investigators would not say what led them to believe the children were there.

Officials suspect Tunstall was slain on or about Sept. 15, Haida said.

The same day, Hall summoned police to the Frank Holten park, saying she had gone into labor, Hart said. The dead baby, taken to a hospital, showed no signs of trauma, and an autopsy the next day failed to pinpoint a cause of death, he said.

Hall would not let doctors at the hospital examine her and offered conflicting reasons for why she went into labor, alternately saying she had consensual sex and was raped, Hart said.

Authorities say Hall acknowledged to her boyfriend during the baby's funeral Thursday that the child wasn't his, and that she killed the mother. The boyfriend told police, who arrested his girlfriend hours later, investigators said.

DNA tests should determine definitively whether the baby was the one Tunstall was carrying, Hart said.

The baby was buried Thursday as Taylor Horn after a funeral arranged by L. King Funeral Chapel, whose president said Hall called minutes after the service was to start, asking if she could reschedule for a different day so more relatives could attend. At the time, Levi King said, only two relatives were there.

The woman showed up two hours late, ultimately signing an affidavit for the funeral home stating that the child was hers, King said.

The East St. Louis case is the second recent case in the area involving babies.

Shannon Torrez, 36, of Lonedell, Mo. _ south of St. Louis, about an hour's drive from here _ is accused of slashing a young mother's throat and kidnapping her baby on Sept. 15. The baby was returned unharmed Tuesday, the same day Torrez was arrested.

Also in Missouri, Lisa Montgomery will stand trial April 30 on charges of snatching a baby from the womb of Bobbie Jo Stinnett at her Skidmore, Mo., home in 2004. The baby survived.


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To: freepatriot32

Time For Some "Old Time" Justice!

Click the Pic J
The Jersey Lilly: Langtry Texas ....in a few short weeks it will be spring. The snows of winter will flow away, the ice will vanish, the air will become soft and balmy.

The annual miracle of the years will awaken and come to pass.
The rivulet will run its soaring course to the sea.
The timid desert flowers will put fourth their tender shoots.
The glorious valleys of this imperial domain will blossom as the rose.
From every tree top, some wild songster will carol his mating song.
Butterflies will sport in the sunshine.

But you will not be here to enjoy it. Because I command the sheriff of the county to lead you away to some remote spot, swing you by the neck from a bough of some sturdy oak and let you hang until you are Dead, Dead, Dead!
You cold-blooded, blood-thirsty, throat-cutting, murdering son of a bitch.

.....Judge Roy Bean


NB:There are several versions of Judge Roy Bean's words in this case and also who he was passing judgment upon.
41 posted on 09/23/2006 7:04:37 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: MOgirl

The perp could well have been whacked out on crack or something too.


42 posted on 09/23/2006 7:05:19 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (No religion demands so much of it's members and so little of itself, than islam.)
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To: freepatriot32

This is awful. An entire family wiped out. For what?? Also, the victim was 23 and she had a seven year old child...??

This whole story is just beyond depressing. I feel sick to my stomach.


43 posted on 09/23/2006 7:06:17 PM PDT by USArmySpouse
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To: prairiebreeze

Did Fox say how the little girls died?


44 posted on 09/23/2006 7:06:20 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

It was two little boys and the baby girl. I haven't heard a specific cause of death reported, just that they were found in a dryer.


45 posted on 09/23/2006 7:08:06 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (No religion demands so much of it's members and so little of itself, than islam.)
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To: USArmySpouse

She was 16. It happens. There was a big gap then 3 babies one after another. Wonder why?


46 posted on 09/23/2006 7:08:30 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

No, just that they were stuffed in a dryer. Did she kill them before she stuffed them in the dryer?

They will have to do autopsies to determine the cause of death.


47 posted on 09/23/2006 7:08:33 PM PDT by Palladin (Benedict--the New Sobieski?)
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To: SuziQ

I hate to even think this, but did those children witness this attack? If they did, and they're still alive, they would be terrifed to show themselves.


48 posted on 09/23/2006 7:08:55 PM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: prairiebreeze

looks like little girls according to the pic up thread


49 posted on 09/23/2006 7:10:05 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: prairiebreeze

It wouldn't surprise me if someone that could do what she did could have killed them. I was wondering though, if the oldest might have run away with them and they got trapped hiding and suffocated .


50 posted on 09/23/2006 7:10:54 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: prairiebreeze
Hello,

Oh, that is entirely possible. I heard today that the freak (I can't stand to say woman in this case), had lost custody of her own kids to the state. I had assumed that she would have kept those kids alive, since she lost hers. I expected (read: wanted) them to be found locked up somewhere, hungry and thirsty, but alive. Silly me.

Glad to be here, MOgirl
51 posted on 09/23/2006 7:12:26 PM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
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To: CindyDawg

That would be even sadder, if possible.

No, I think Tiffany finally finished confessing. How else would the cops know where to look for the children's bodies?


52 posted on 09/23/2006 7:13:01 PM PDT by Palladin (Benedict--the New Sobieski?)
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To: USArmySpouse
Also, the victim was 23 and she had a seven year old child...??

My daughter's best friend is 8, her mother is 24 and a close friend of mine..........she was raped when she was 15.

53 posted on 09/23/2006 7:15:30 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Palladin
Hello,

Good point, she must have told them where to look. At least those babies aren't shoved in a dark dryer anymore.

Glad to be here, MOgirl
54 posted on 09/23/2006 7:17:11 PM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
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To: RDTF
Tiffany Hall, 24, was charged as authorities implored the public for help in their search for the victim's two sons, ages 7 and 2, and 1-year-old daughter.

Just going by the report...

55 posted on 09/23/2006 7:18:48 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (No religion demands so much of it's members and so little of itself, than islam.)
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To: Palladin

This is so sad. I wonder if the children were put in the dryers after they died, or if they were hiding in the dryers and suffocated.


56 posted on 09/23/2006 7:19:11 PM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: CindyDawg

Certainly a possibility until proven different. Suffocation was a thought I'd had too.


57 posted on 09/23/2006 7:19:47 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (No religion demands so much of it's members and so little of itself, than islam.)
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To: MOgirl
Silly me.

Sensible, rational, life-respecting you.

58 posted on 09/23/2006 7:24:39 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (No religion demands so much of it's members and so little of itself, than islam.)
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To: keats5

I can't even contemplate it.

My great-grandson just celebrated his first birthday with a big party. We enjoyed watching him mess up his cake, and play with his cars and trucks. He can say "Vroom, Vroom!"

How can anyone destroy the precious life of a child?


59 posted on 09/23/2006 7:24:52 PM PDT by Palladin (Benedict--the New Sobieski?)
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To: USArmySpouse

It isn't clear that the entire family was wiped out. There is no mention of a father or fathers.


60 posted on 09/23/2006 7:25:09 PM PDT by ladyjane
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