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DA: Alleged Duke Rape Took 5-10 Minutes
AP ^ | September 22, 2006 | AARON BEARD

Posted on 09/22/2006 1:20:40 PM PDT by Howlin

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To: Carolinamom
I think he's counting on an OJ jury.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winner!

121 posted on 09/22/2006 5:49:56 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: Howlin

Over worked...common complaint of social service workers, which Nifong used to be.


122 posted on 09/22/2006 5:55:43 PM PDT by Carolinamom (Passivity is far slyer and more lethal than rabid Bush hatred.. --Mark Steyn)
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To: bjc

bump


123 posted on 09/22/2006 5:58:09 PM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: Howlin

Could they be on back order? I got a few of the first run, which were simply blue bands with the message imprinted. I had to wait a couple of weeks for the second run, which has the message color-filled with white print.


124 posted on 09/22/2006 6:08:13 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Carolinamom
... social service workers, which Nifong used to be ...

Now THAT is a revealing datum ... 'scuse me while I spit.

125 posted on 09/22/2006 6:30:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Please pray for Vlad's four top incisors to arrive real soon!)
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To: Ken H
http://friendsofdukeuniversity.blogspot.com/2006/05/general-topics-open.html:

I spoke to the A.G. for North Carolina today and someone from Durham N.C. will have to file a complaint. They will not listen to an out of towner. He said no one has come forward with one. I spoke to him for over an hour I had a lot to tell him about Nifong and his mouth.

9:32 PM, September 22, 2006

(I'm not the above poster)

126 posted on 09/22/2006 6:48:39 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

I suspect the AG's or his office is lying about not having gotten any complaints about Nifong from Durham. There is no way for you to know of course and he was counting on that.


127 posted on 09/22/2006 6:58:53 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Howlin
This comment bugs the hell out of me as well, as if Nifong does not have total control of what is, and is not released to defense counsel.

Nifong's statements smack of desparation. Never mind his amended time frame for the "rape," his infuriation over the "Durham polls," his citing costs for results of DNA results for defense counsel from the second lab, when he chose a second lab in the first place, and failure to give the AV a polygraph to avoid total humiliation.
128 posted on 09/22/2006 7:26:34 PM PDT by InsanityReigns
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To: InsanityReigns

Gretta had a segment on the hearing today. Ted was on the panel. I think Feiger was also. There were two other attorneys who I did not recognize and since I am working tonight did not have time to write down their names.

1. The guest attorneys generally agreed that the request for the DNA information was tweaking Nifong. Only one seemed to understand that the defense might want to know who else Mangum had sexual DNA on her that day since she likely lied to Nifong about it for weeks about having had sex with anyone around that time and this can be used at trial to attack her credibility. [As an aside, is Nifong possibly the only one in the room not to figure out Mangum is a hooker?]

2. One who I did not know openned by responding to Gretta's question that yes he was, as an ex-prosecutor and current defense attorney, very concerned that Nifong was taking so long to get the discovery out and have the trial. Ted chimed in with his theory that the defense is making a mistake putting out their information which he claims gives Nifong an advantage. Ted is clueless that the defense may have only given out SOME of their evidence.

3. Ted takes up the rest of the segment by chiming in that the defense with their push polling is being unethical. He does not even mention the polling but starts ranting aobut unethical defense attorneys and Gretta has to go back and explain what he is bathering on about to the viewers. Everyone else on the panel laughs at him pointing out over and over and over that the cure is to not let Mrs. Nifong or anyone else polled on the jury. This goes round and round and round with Ted claiming outrage and everyone else repeating why he is wrong, asking what ethical cannon this violates, asking can they not have mock trials either, saying the DA can poll too, etc. This basically wasted the second half of the segment.


129 posted on 09/22/2006 7:56:07 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Ken H

ooooohhh.. I want color-filled ones! Shoot!


130 posted on 09/22/2006 7:57:17 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: JLS

I am merely saying that's all Nifong has ... a weak Sane report and the AV's "word."


131 posted on 09/22/2006 7:58:09 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

But maggie, the question is WHICH word? She seems to keep changing them....


132 posted on 09/22/2006 8:01:01 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: Dukie07

Or should I say, Nifong is changing them for her?


133 posted on 09/22/2006 8:02:56 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: Dukie07

Again ... I agree.

This is all Nifong has; a weak SANE report and the AV's weak testimony.

He's prosecuting on her "word."


134 posted on 09/22/2006 8:22:31 PM PDT by maggief
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To: All

Any psych majors here? What is driving Nifong? Sure, he wanted to keep his job as DA and ran with this case prior to the primary. Why does he persist, and can he stop himself? Is he delusional? Does he really believe a) Crystal; b) he can win; c) this does not affect his reputation? What will happen to him if a) he loses the election; b) he loses the case; c) he realizes what he's done? Mind you, I don't give a flying fig what happens to him or his wife. I do feel sorry for the kids, though. Inquiring minds want to know..... [Hee. I just had a vision of a front page story on the NE - "Nifong caught in affair with FA!" - sorry]


135 posted on 09/22/2006 8:24:51 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: Howlin; abb

continued thanks for the pings.

It is sad,

Summer's over;

School is back in session;

and Nifongs's mishandling resumes.


136 posted on 09/22/2006 8:24:53 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (The concept: "Innocent until proven guilty" is correctly phrased: "Innocent UNLESS proven guilty")
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To: Dukie07
The white on blue really makes the message stand out-

DUKE LACROSSE 2006 INNOCENT! #6, #13, #45

137 posted on 09/22/2006 8:25:31 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: maggief
I am merely saying that's all Nifong has ... a weak Sane report and the AV's "word."

Ok. As I said in my Gretta report, I am working at home today and read through the thread quickly. Sorry. And of course I agree.
138 posted on 09/22/2006 8:29:54 PM PDT by JLS
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To: CondorFlight
I think she HAS to take the stand--those she accused have the absolute right to question her.

I think you're right.

139 posted on 09/22/2006 8:33:36 PM PDT by lakey
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To: Dukie07

I think:

1. Nifong originally was merely trying to win that primary.

2. Now he is trying to win the general AND AVOID PROSECUTION.

Nifong might get out of this case now if he could. But he knows now that he has taken on some people who want more than charges dropped with their names smeared. They want vindication and he likely understands one form of vindication for them would be his sorry butt in prison.


140 posted on 09/22/2006 8:45:55 PM PDT by JLS
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