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SCDPS: Males Older Than 35 Lead Motorcycle Fatalities
WLTX ^ | 9/21/06

Posted on 09/21/2006 12:38:32 PM PDT by martin_fierro

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To: absolootezer0

harleys are "high in price but lagging in innovation"

new 1584cc engine in 2007
6 speed trans in 2006
EFI on all Sportsters in 2005
larger rear wheels, etc. in 2004
etc., etc.
We buy HOGs for the style and comfort, they are made very well in USA, its easy to critisize harley owners but most of these people would be afraid to ride one at 70 mph,


41 posted on 09/22/2006 9:00:35 AM PDT by razzle
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To: Blue Jays

..actually it isn't loose...and I agree that stuff falling off of the bike really stinks.. I think it is just the wimpy brackets that connect the headlight to the headlight mounting block that are flexing.

The only real "loose" equipment might be my passengers...but we won't discuss the women beyond that...lol...the good news is I may not always wear a helmet, but I ALWAYS wear a raincoat.

...concern is noted and appreciated though.


42 posted on 09/22/2006 9:12:20 AM PDT by woollyone (Preacher; "If there was more love in the world, there'd probably be a lot less dyin'")
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To: Gay State Conservative

murdercycles.

I used to have one. It was fun and I miss it. I also missed a fire hydrant by inches in my crash. I counted my blessings and that was that.

PS I also quit sky diving.


43 posted on 09/22/2006 9:14:54 AM PDT by Loud Mime (An undefeated enemy is still an enemy.......war has a purpose.)
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To: Loud Mime
I used to have one. It was fun and I miss it. I also missed a fire hydrant by inches in my crash. I counted my blessings and that was that.

I worked in a large hospital's ER for 20 years.I learned many lessons while working there.Among them are:

If you have chest pain,get your a$$ to the hospital quickly.

Never,ever shoot heroin

Never drink and drive

Never stick a screwdriver in your ear trying to get the wax out.

Never,never,*ever* ride on any motorized vehicle that has fewer than four wheels.

44 posted on 09/22/2006 9:22:17 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: Gay State Conservative
Hi GSC-

The whole donorcycles thing is so trite and overdone it makes one look sophomoric. Many people enjoy your insightful posts and active participation as a FReeper and we know you're more clever than that.

If motorcycles aren't your cup of tea, why jump at the opportunity to be a part of motorcycle threads? This comes from one who has been riding on the road for more than twenty years and on dirtbikes for more than thirty without (knock on wood) a mishap. I'm a full-leathers, boots, gloves, and helmet all-the-time kind of rider.

~ Blue Jays ~

45 posted on 09/22/2006 9:42:02 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: woollyone
Hi woollyone-

"Badum-CHING!" [insert comedy club drum rimshot sound] Funny stuff about always wearing the raincoat...

~ Blue Jays ~

46 posted on 09/22/2006 9:49:31 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Blue Jays
First,thanks for your gracious compliment.

Why do I get involved in such threads? Easy...because of what I've seen.

Here's an example.As I've said before,I worked in a hospital for 20 years.It was a large,internationally renowned hospital affiliated with perhaps the best known and most highly regarded medical school in the world.

When I started there,a fair percentage (but not a large one) of the physicians with whom I worked (many of them world renowned) smoked cigarettes.And a noticeable percentage of the nurses I worked with smoked.

When I left,I can't recall a single physician,young or old,being a smoker.And *very* few of the nurses did.

Although I have no specific info to back this up,I'd wager every nickle I have that today,no more than .00001% of this country's ER physicians and no more than .001% of ER nurses ride motorcycles.And it's due to the simple fact that they,better than anyone else,know just what can happen on a bike...and how often,and how easily,it does happen.

Some might see mine as the voice of experience on this subject.Others will ignore my posts..or even seethe after having read them.

47 posted on 09/22/2006 9:59:49 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: razzle
and japanese bikes have had all this stuff for how many years?
as far as made in america..

i like harley style, its just, like so many other things, you pay for the name and really don't get anything that you can't get somewhere else for cheaper. that's why you see so many middle aged, managerial type guys on harleys. not because they're better than anything else, but because of the name. same reason they buy armani suits and escalades. status.
48 posted on 09/22/2006 10:03:31 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: absolootezer0
I'm not an armani suit guy and have ridden other bikes, Harleys are expensive but worth it to me and many many others. With success you get all kinds of detractors, just look at the US, much of the world hates/envies us. I suppose your right in one respect, most of us wouldn't give the time of day to other (japanese bike) riders. Dude, you need to focus your anger on something productive, seems to me.
49 posted on 09/22/2006 10:10:57 AM PDT by razzle
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To: razzle

Not envy at all.

I know zer0 and he is like me.

We can afford 5 new Harleys but we are smarter than that. we don't need to follow the herd. We prefer value and no matter how you crunch the numbers, upsidedown and sideways, Harley is WAY behind and relies on sheep that need to buy an image.


50 posted on 09/22/2006 10:22:10 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Hi GSC-

My compliment was sincere. There is no reason why people can't be of differing opinions on FR and still maintain decorum and proper manners. I cringe when I see otherwise.

As far as the involvement of medical personnel in motorcycling, it could also point to the fact that given all the schooling and outrageous number of hours as a resident...they're simply too tired to ride. I know that I would NEVER ride my powerful sportbike after having been awake for 24+ hours. Also, many of these medical professionals are not "hitting their stride" and becoming financially comfortable (big medical school bills) until they reach their early-40's in age...and other costs such as children, schools, larger homes, etc., take center-stage.

~ Blue Jays ~

51 posted on 09/22/2006 10:25:20 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: razzle
new 1584cc engine in 2007
6 speed trans in 2006
EFI on all Sportsters in 2005
larger rear wheels, etc. in 2004
etc., etc.


Welcome to the 21st century. When they can take that package and cut the weight in half and double the horsepower, and sell it for $8000, I will buy one.
52 posted on 09/22/2006 10:25:42 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: Blue Jays; Gay State Conservative

I posted this a few weeks ago but I will post it again to "Donorcycle Man".


Five weeks ago I was going to go riding on one of my motorcycles but I decided to cut my grass first. I tripped and ran over my foot severing my big toe and the one beside it. Very true story, unfortunately.

EVERYTHING is dangerous. But that doesn't mean that I am going to lock myself up in a padded room the rest of my life


53 posted on 09/22/2006 10:30:37 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: martin_fierro
For those of you who ride motorcycles, take it from someone who drives a very large truck - please do not sit next to a large truck for any extended period of time if you can help it. I have had trouble seeing small cars in my blind spot, let alone motorcycles.

As a consequence, I now change lanes very slowly, turn my signal on far in advance, and check all around my truck repeatedly. However, if someone in a smaller car or on a motorcycle were to sit in just the right spot, they would be invisible for all intensive purposes.

Thus my agreement with folks who say that you should ride as if your are invisible. Good luck and happy riding to you all...

54 posted on 09/22/2006 10:38:06 AM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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Hi Hottieboy-

Motorcycling is a passion that will be with me to the day I can't hoist my leg over the saddle. I consider it a calculated risk. I'm also a serious bicycling enthusiast who easily rides more than 200 miles per week for fitness. The gearing on my roadbikes allows me to reach speeds of nearly 60 m.p.h. and one tends not to see too many people saying bad things about bicycles. The best we can do in this life is be careful and keep our wits about us as we pursue what makes us happy! Sportbikes are definitely in that equation for me.

~ Blue Jays ~

55 posted on 09/22/2006 10:45:32 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: HOTTIEBOY
Five weeks ago I was going to go riding on one of my motorcycles but I decided to cut my grass first. I tripped and ran over my foot severing my big toe and the one beside it. Very true story, unfortunately.

Sorry to hear about your accident.I hope that you've healed or are at least on the way to healing.

EVERYTHING is dangerous.

Yup,you've got that right.Everything from blueberries to bullets have the potential to harm (or even kill) people given the wrong set of circumstances.

But that doesn't mean that I am going to lock myself up in a padded room the rest of my life.

Fair enough.My basic attitude on the general subject is that if I have a 99.8% chance of surviving a trip to the grocery store in a Chevy Impala and a 91.9% chance of surviving the same trip on a Harley,I'll take the Chevy.

And you,I assume,would take the Harley.

Different strokes for different folks,as Sly Stone once said.

56 posted on 09/22/2006 10:50:05 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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Sorry to hear about your accident.I hope that you've healed or are at least on the way to healing.

Thanks, on the way to healing....

And you,I assume,would take the Harley.

Nope. I would take the Yamaha. With full face helmet, full leather riding gear with armour and boots and gloves.
If you see anyone riding a Yamaha like that (over age 30), chances are they have owned a Harley and have crashed before. And they didn't like either experience.
57 posted on 09/22/2006 11:04:08 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Harley ... relies on sheep

Of course you wouldn't want to say this to one of us to our face. Especially with a name like hottieboy. Try coming to a HOG rally such as Sturgis or Daytona and call the guys there sheep, and tell them you are the hottieboy - ha ha.


58 posted on 09/22/2006 11:53:39 AM PDT by razzle
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To: razzle
I'm going to Myrtle Beach in two weeks. Been going there twice a year for about eight years now. Not once have I been afraid of any one of them. Nor have they been afraid of me, I'm sure. I have owned several harleys in the past and will never own another one. I have an image, I don't need to purchase one. Sorry I am not much of a badass biker to respond in a badass tone.

Do you think if I buy another Harley, and get all the HD endorsed crap to go with it, I could suddenly be badass enough to respond?

I will just say this: I paid $12,000 for a Yamaha that is 300lbs lighter, has 3 times the horsepower, and is 60 years ahead in technology.
Are you saying that I shoulda paid $18,000 for a bike that is twice as heavy, 1/3 the power, built on 1940s engine format, then covered in chrome and labeled nostalgic?

I plan on riding the chopper at the beach this time. It has an S&S boat anchor for an engine but it looks good. Thats all that matters, right? I might ride the 81cb, I am not sure. I might choose something with a little more power, not sure.

My friends ride Japanese rides but they also own a few harleys so I am sure they will ride those since it is a Harley event.

You seem to know something about bikes. Have you ever done any riding for a living? You know, testing and evaluation? No? What about sanctioned racing? No? Ever taught a riders safety course? Ever been asked by a tire manufacturer to evaluate a prototype set of tires? No?
59 posted on 09/22/2006 12:24:23 PM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: razzle

Harley's are for those who are more about image than riding. Any wonder the company make more of licensing pocketbooks and womens leather undies, etc. than producing motorcycles?


60 posted on 09/22/2006 12:33:48 PM PDT by Toby06 (Hydrogen is not a fuel source. Hydrogen is an energy storage method, like a battery.)
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