[razzle]

I'm not an armani suit guy and have ridden other bikes, Harleys are expensive but worth it to me and many many others. With success you get all kinds of detractors, just look at the US, much of the world hates/envies us. I suppose your right in one respect, most of us wouldn't give the time of day to other (japanese bike) riders. Dude, you need to focus your anger on something productive, seems to me.

[HOTTIEBOY]

Not envy at all.

I know zer0 and he is like me.

We can afford 5 new Harleys but we are smarter than that. we don't need to follow the herd. We prefer value and no matter how you crunch the numbers, upsidedown and sideways, Harley is WAY behind and relies on sheep that need to buy an image.